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Two_70_Converts 06-07-2021 12:33 PM

Barn Car Recovery
 
Trying to stay away from the tired "Barn Find" cliché but no escaping this car was in a barn for decades. However, I had known about it for about the last 40 years as the owner was a longtime friend. He passed away several years ago and after negotiations with the family was able to acquire it due to my long history with the car and the owner. Going to be a while to sort it all out.

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Keith Seymore 06-07-2021 12:35 PM

Yep. If anybody gets to use the "barn find" naming convention it should be you.

Congratulations on the acquisition and sorry to hear about your friend.

K

Two_70_Converts 06-07-2021 12:36 PM

More pictures

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ictureid=14109

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1_Wild_Cat 06-07-2021 12:45 PM

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your friend...My goodness though - what a car. Great find - I look forward to seeing it come back to life.

PONTIAC LARRY 06-07-2021 12:50 PM

Great Story and your Honoring your friend very well to get this car going. What an incredible car and ultra rare car !!! How many of the 108 convertible 69 Judges were Burgundy or for that matter hardtop Burgundy Judges ! Plus 4 speed ! WOW !

bdk1976 06-07-2021 01:49 PM

Wow - your friend certainly had excellent taste in cars!

Two_70_Converts 06-07-2021 02:11 PM

Here is a picture of the car in 1981 when it was looking good.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ictureid=14115

This picture is me driving with some friends. The owner was away on extended business and made the mistake of leaving the car with me. Sent him this picture to stress him out. :) I'm guessing this was around late 1980's.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ictureid=14114

indymanjoe 06-07-2021 02:36 PM

Sorry for your friend as well. What a car! Amazing to say the least!

GTOnly70 06-07-2021 02:47 PM

Wow, '69 Judge ragtop, 4-speed, hideaways. I surmise #'s matching. Barn finds just don't get any better!!!

vertigto 06-07-2021 02:52 PM

Glad you could keep the legacy going. That's about as good as it gets... gorgeous '69 vert!!

will slow gto 06-07-2021 02:55 PM

What happened to the car between 1990 and now? Everyone knew a Judge convertible was a rare and desirable car 35 years ago. Bittersweet to come into a car like that after the loss of a friend or family member. Thanks for sharing and best of luck getting it back on the road

Two_70_Converts 06-07-2021 03:08 PM

He was a very unique individual. He got burned out with the 8-5 grind and checked out of full time employment. Sold most everything and would travel the world and be gone most of the year. For years he worked in the Antarctic for a few months. So the car got stashed at a mutual friends with plans on one day restoring it if he ever settled down.

P.S. - there is a considerable stash of NOS GM parts he had collected for later over the years I have to get still.

JSchmitz 06-07-2021 03:09 PM

WOW! Amazing car! Do your friend proud!

SRR 06-07-2021 03:17 PM

Wow!

Brewster 06-07-2021 04:27 PM

Great story and my condolences on your loss.
Im sure your friend will be watching over you every time your driving the car. Mine sat for 43 years and would still be sitting if I hadnt found it and bugged the owner to death. Keep us posted and wish you many happy miles.

carcrazy 06-07-2021 04:51 PM

Sounds like your friend had a great, free spirit. Sorry for your loss. Great, unique car!

gtospieg 06-07-2021 07:09 PM

And a WS too...very cool

OCMDGTO 06-07-2021 08:35 PM

Incredible car and great pics. I'm sure your bud would be ecstatic for you to bring it back to life and get to drive it.

salem1912 06-07-2021 09:34 PM

Was going to say nice find,but you knew about it for sometime. Good luck with the car. Philly area, perhaps I'll see it at a show soon.

Ram4king 06-07-2021 11:03 PM

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I thought it was my old one I had back in 81 but mine had a white interior. Dont know whatever happened to it.
Awesome story
Here's my hardtop

GOAT8U2 06-07-2021 11:23 PM

Curious, which type of restoration would give it the most value and not hurt its rarity?

Frame off too much?
All parts most be factory and restored?

Drag Star Le Mans 06-08-2021 03:22 AM

Great friend and amazing car! What was his response with your four friends in the car?

thepontiacman 06-08-2021 07:17 AM

Wow, Good luck with your project. Very Rare

Can you post trim tag picture?

3goats 06-08-2021 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram4king (Post 6256082)
I thought it was my old one I had back in 81 but mine had a white interior. Dont know whatever happened to it.
Awesome story
Here's my hardtop

Was your car a RA3 m20 4 speed? PS PB
It might be up here in Canada?

dhcarguy 06-08-2021 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram4king (Post 6256082)
I thought it was my old one I had back in 81 but mine had a white interior. Dont know whatever happened to it.
Awesome story
Here's my hardtop

Don, yours wasn't a convertible.:D

bird72 06-08-2021 10:58 AM

Look forward to seeing this car live again. Amazing owner story and your personal, long term tie in with the car and friend, and oh, by the way, it is the cream of the Goats, in fantastic colors.

Two_70_Converts 06-08-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Drag Star Le Mans (Post 6256113)
Great friend and amazing car! What was his response with your four friends in the car?

Ha, not too much of a reaction but we knew it had to keep him awake, which we all expected and hoped for. He was a prankster so giving him a dose of his own medicine. He knew though it was all in fun and it was actually good the car got fired up and the wheels turning as it had been sitting.

Two_70_Converts 06-08-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thepontiacman (Post 6256128)
Wow, Good luck with your project. Very Rare

Can you post trim tag picture?


Looks like originally it had a Ivory top.

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geeteeohguy 06-08-2021 04:57 PM

Amazing story and car. Sorry for the loss of your friend. You will keep his spirit and memory alive with this very, very special car. PLEASE keep us posted.

Ram4king 06-09-2021 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dhcarguy (Post 6256158)
Don, yours wasn't a convertible.:D

Yes it was! I bought it from greentree road in blackwood NJ. Guy in the neighborhood vandalized it and I sold it on a snowy night for 3500 bucks.

Ram4king 06-09-2021 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 3goats (Post 6256150)
Was your car a RA3 m20 4 speed? PS PB
It might be up here in Canada?

No it was a m21 390 gear car.

77 TRASHCAN 06-09-2021 05:29 PM

Glad it fell into your hands!!!
Things don't often work out like this...
Can't wait to see it in your shop, and more details of it's condition, and all the parts!!!

I likely nearly had something like this happen to me. My buddy sold his 72 HO455 GTO a couple of years before he passed in 2018. BUT thankfully it's in the hands of someone that can afford to bring it all the way back to it's "day 2" glory. He regretted selling it to his dying day. He said, at least I could have gone out in the garage and started it, and heard it run!!!

That car is an iconic muscle car, if there was EVER ONE!!!

mgarblik 06-09-2021 07:15 PM

If ever there was a legitimate use of the term, "barn find", you have it sitting right there. A rare car and a rare friend. I am sure it will be fantastic when your done with it. Best of luck, restoring your friend's car to greatness. Love the colors.

Two_70_Converts 06-09-2021 08:57 PM

Hope I'm not bore-A$$ing everyone but had to share this picture as it still makes me chuckle. This was at the P.O.C.I convention at Niagara Falls in 1982 (?). We had plans on making an excursion into Canada. At the crossing we were asked routine questions on the purpose for our visit. Our friend in the passenger seat made a wise-ass reply to the guard (Guard: Where were you born, Him: In a hospital) and well, didn't get too far. I was driving so had the honor of being interrogated by the Customs Officers as seen in the picture (Was I ever really that skinny?) The owner was taking the picture. Nothing came of it but a hard time and duly deserved stress.


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400 4spd. 06-09-2021 09:43 PM

With all of your history with the car, I'm happy to see you wound up with it. It was meant to be.

Brewster 06-09-2021 09:52 PM

My thoughts as well.

ta6point6 06-10-2021 12:48 PM

That is an awesome car and a even cooler story, good luck on bringing it back to it's former glory.

unruhjonny 06-10-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Two_70_Converts (Post 6256560)
Hope I'm not boring everyone but had to share this picture as it still makes me chuckle. ...

I don't think you're boring a single individual.

I too am sorry to hear of your friend's passing.

I am glad to read that after the history between you and your friend, and this car, that you got it.

I hope you are able to negotiate to get the other stuff, and build the car as something of an honor to your friend's memory - and enjoy it a little bit with some of his family.

77 TRASHCAN 06-10-2021 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unruhjonny (Post 6256767)
I don't think you're boring a single individual.

I too am sorry to hear of your friend's passing.

I am glad to read that after the history between you and your friend, and this car, that you got it.

I hope you are able to negotiate to get the other stuff, and build the car as something of an honor to your friend's memory - and enjoy it a little bit with some of his family.

X2...100%

I was blessed by being able to work on my buddies 72 GTO, helping him to get it ship shape, mechanically to sell (it did not need a lot). Getting to work on one of Pontiacs most powerful engines/car was a cool deal to me. I worked on it on Saturdays, mostly. Got paid via him buying lunches...:clap2:
Best part was, it wasn't stock. It was still a viable (but outdated) stock eliminator car!!!

Scarebird 06-10-2021 06:46 PM

I love that first picture!

77 TRASHCAN 06-10-2021 08:40 PM

Disc brakes???
Power steering???

Two_70_Converts 06-10-2021 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unruhjonny (Post 6256767)
- and enjoy it a little bit with some of his family.

yep, that is exactly the plan and what was discussed with them. He left behind a good size family which I also have a history with so really looking forward to sharing this car with them as well.

Two_70_Converts 06-10-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 77 TRASHCAN (Post 6256803)
Disc brakes???
Power steering???

Yes and yes

1965gp 06-11-2021 01:16 AM

This is quite the opportunity - not many of us get a chance to memorialize a friend of ours from the hobby like this.

I’m very happy this car ended up in your hands and wish you the best. I hope you keep the car open to the family for special events if requested.

77 TRASHCAN 06-14-2021 05:29 PM

Just bringing this thread to the top, so hopefully more folks will read it!!!

Awesome car!!! Awesome people!!! Awesome story!!!

Two_70_Converts 06-14-2021 05:58 PM

Well if there is still interest... went back for the parts this weekend. Off to a good start with a GM NOS Endura bumper still in the box.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ictureid=14132

Brewster 06-14-2021 06:04 PM

Bonus what else did yah get???

unruhjonny 06-14-2021 06:06 PM

WOW!!

mgarblik 06-14-2021 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two_70_Converts (Post 6257547)
Well if there is still interest... went back for the parts this weekend. Off to a good start with a GM NOS Endura bumper still in the box.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ictureid=14132

That's really cool! That bumper was made about 1 mile from where I live now! Former Inland Division plant in Vandalia, OH They made all the Endura bumpers there, some steering wheels, the Corvette plastic rear leaf spring, and later air bag components. Now some Chinese company is making batteries in the old shell of a plant. An NOS Endura bumper is a fantastic part to have. Best of luck with the car. Your a lucky guy.

77 Canamman 06-15-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mgarblik (Post 6257558)
That's really cool! That bumper was made about 1 mile from where I live now! Former Inland Division plant in Vandalia, OH They made all the Endura bumpers there, some steering wheels, the Corvette plastic rear leaf spring, and later air bag components. Now some Chinese company is making batteries in the old shell of a plant. An NOS Endura bumper is a fantastic part to have. Best of luck with the car. Your a lucky guy.

Is that the same Inland Company that made the worst shifters to be placed in an automobile?


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