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OG68 11-17-2021 05:27 PM

Lotta Money for a 37 Amp Alternator
 
Rare (?) 69 Alternator sold for $1999.99 on eBay.

Offering a Very Rare Delco Remy Factory Rebuilt 1969 Pontiac Trans am GTO Judge Alternator # 1100832 9B28 Dated Feb 28th 1969 Includes Correct Finned Back Cover.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25523271777...rdt=true&rt=nc

nashcar 11-17-2021 05:58 PM

I had mine restored by John Pirkle ten years ago. He was amazed that I had one.

FrankieT/A 11-17-2021 06:13 PM

Well I'll be looking through my cores !!!

Stuart 11-17-2021 11:31 PM

Listing has ended, so no one bit on the price. People can ask whatever they want, but it doesn't mean anyone will actually pay that amount.

4dblnkldude 11-17-2021 11:41 PM

Sold the original off my car 15 years ago for 500 bucks.

OG68 11-18-2021 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 6295893)
Listing has ended, so no one bit on the price. People can ask whatever they want, but it doesn't mean anyone will actually pay that amount.

I was watching it just to see whether it would sell for that price. BIN Listing lasted less than a day and reported as sold.

burd 11-18-2021 10:49 AM

20 years from now, that will be cheap.

padgett 11-18-2021 11:17 AM

a) particularly since is base 10DN only used on cheapest cars.
b) probably won't be in dollars.

"QUICK-SILVER" 11-18-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by padgett (Post 6295941)
a) particularly since is base 10DN only used on cheapest cars.
b) probably won't be in dollars.

10DN with internal regulator?

Clay

padgett 11-18-2021 01:28 PM

Teach me to assume, the 1100832 is a 10SI (one of the first). Haven't found the exact application. Yet.

scott70 11-18-2021 01:28 PM

So fill me in,,,what makes a 69 pontiac v8 alt so rare?

RAJ7395 11-18-2021 01:44 PM

1100832 was one of the early production alternators (as opposed to a generator and external voltage regulator). As such, it had many early hour failures and most of them were removed, replaced, and discarded early in life. Thus few exist today.

Formulabruce 11-18-2021 06:06 PM

These ARE early 10SI alternators. Before this and in many cars the 10 DN alternator continued well into the 70's.
These were Very reliable in function. Only real issues were the front case being open style has weak spokes.
The Corvette and Pontiac Firebird were the test bed for the 10si program IIRC. I owned a couple that were on 350 and 400 birds, not trans am. Both sold for 500 each as others have mentioned. The market isn't that big for these.
The auction reminds me of heartbeat city selling 37 amp REGULATORS for 6 cylinder. 1969 camaros as " COPO" original parts. Both used them. But....

padgett 11-18-2021 07:04 PM

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What I found so far was that in '69 there were a number of 110083x 10SIs produced alongside 11007xx 10DNs. What I did not find was exactly what an 1100832 fit. (references manual . Found 1100834, 836, and 837 as 37A in Canada,1970. Found 1100831 and 1100833, but not 832 yet. Have about 6" of documentation to go through.

Formulabruce 11-18-2021 09:37 PM

Keep in mind the cars with a 10si Alternator in '69, '70 had their OWN wiring harness.
This isn't just a alternator swap.
I believe 837 was a DN alternator.
Interestingly you can find a 928 built in '73 as a factory DN alternator for a AMC, but in a Pontiac that number was a SI unit from 71-72.

A Schab 11-18-2021 11:21 PM

I paid $5.00 for the one on my T/A. It was in the trunk of a 69 400 Bird sitting in a wrecking yard in Yakima Wa.

turbo69bird 11-27-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by A Schab (Post 6296095)
I paid $5.00 for the one on my T/A. It was in the trunk of a 69 400 Bird sitting in a wrecking yard in Yakima Wa.

Damn that was one hell
Of a deal! Good job.
Can’t ask for better than that


My car was special ordered w the 55amp internally regulated 10si 830.

Jack P. 11-27-2021 04:08 PM

Not sure if this is a correct for 69 Trans Am but I have a friend doing a nut and bolt resto on a real 69 T/A so he needs one like this. Something about a built in voltage regulator due to no room on the firewall I think because of the ram air pans. So, looking for one if anyone has one.

rwfisher 11-27-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack P. (Post 6298025)
Not sure if this is a correct for 69 Trans Am but I have a friend doing a nut and bolt resto on a real 69 T/A so he needs one like this. Something about a built in voltage regulator due to no room on the firewall I think because of the ram air pans. So, looking for one if anyone has one.

I’ve been looking for a while. Last good quality / authentic one I saw sold privately was $2,300.00. Probably was a deal at that price.. I’m just not there though…

turbo69bird 11-27-2021 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack P. (Post 6298025)
Not sure if this is a correct for 69 Trans Am but I have a friend doing a nut and bolt resto on a real 69 T/A so he needs one like this. Something about a built in voltage regulator due to no room on the firewall I think because of the ram air pans. So, looking for one if anyone has one.

You’d need to see the PHS and see if it’s an internally regulated and what amperage. Others can correct me if I’m wrong but I believe any internally regulated or higher amperage woukd show up on a PHS

johnta1 11-27-2021 10:42 PM

1100832 is a 37 amp, FB STD 400 ONLY, INTERNAL REG; code VU in 1969.
In 1970 it was also available in FB 400 Sport Option, no AC.

:)

stellar 11-28-2021 01:14 PM

A fellow from NJ sent me an alternator for a 1969 vet open faced diamond back for restoration. He wanted $2400.00 insurance for the return trip being sent back.

Formulabruce 11-28-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by johnta1 (Post 6298128)
1100832 is a 37 amp, FB STD 400 ONLY, INTERNAL REG; code VU in 1969.
In 1970 it was also available in FB 400 Sport Option, no AC.

:)

While I am not arguing this application, I see zero reason why it wasnt for a low option T/A , or any R/A 400. I have seen it on a T/A back in '78 the original owner brought in for electrical issues and I noted the face and wrote down the number to give to the parts manager.
The "only" exception I can see is similar to a Z-28, It could have a deeper groove pulley.
I have owned a couple from std 400 cars though as the application mentions.

necdb3 11-28-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6298251)
While I am not arguing this application, I see zero reason why it wasnt for a low option T/A , or any R/A 400. I have seen it on a T/A back in '78 the original owner brought in for electrical issues and I noted the face and wrote down the number to give to the parts manager.
The "only" exception I can see is similar to a Z-28, It could have a deeper groove pulley.
I have owned a couple from std 400 cars though as the application mentions.

I know of 2 69 T/A's with this alternator. I believe it was for low optioned T/A's.

Jack P. 11-28-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by necdb3 (Post 6298263)
I know of 2 69 T/A's with this alternator. I believe it was for low optioned T/A's.

My buddies T/A is a low option car and this is what he has. It is damaged, that's why he is looking for one.

A Schab 11-28-2021 05:22 PM

All T/A’s and most all 69 400 birds had the internal regulated alternor.If you read the discription of the 400 option it mentions it. I always thought all 400 cars had them but member North posted pictures of a 400 car that didn’t have it a few years ago. I also have a 69 400 Bird that is an A/C car and it has the internal alternator still on it but it is a 55 amp one. I believe it Is a 830 but I would have to look at it to confirm the #. Corvettes and some 442’s also use this style alternators in 1969.

johnta1 11-28-2021 09:33 PM

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I'd agree that the TA would get it. 400's were qualifier for them.(but not sure if the 37 amp one could be installed on any Bird?)

Here's a pic of the 69 breakdown of parts of the alternators.

BTW, does the PHS show the self-regulating alternator on it?
K96 was for the 55 amp one, but haven't seen a UPC for the 37 amp one.

:confused:

johnta1 11-28-2021 09:37 PM

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Another pic of the 55 amp usage
(at bottom right side)

A Schab 11-28-2021 09:42 PM

The PHS does not show it because it is included with the 400 option. At least that’s how both of my cars and their PHS info are.

justincampbell 11-29-2021 01:26 PM

Forgive the ignorance of this ? But, are all 37 amp alternators an oddball deal? Or just that particular # of 37 amp alternator? Just curious because I've got a 37 amp with a different # that no one seems to have any interest in.

johnta1 11-29-2021 02:33 PM

The 1100832 is an internal regulated alternator.
The 'normal' 1969 alternator is an external regulated alternator.

In 1970, all Firebirds used internal regulated alternators.
(but most of the other a/b bodies used external)

:)

Formulabruce 11-29-2021 03:09 PM

Build sheet would show the component "code" for the harness and alternator. Std service alternator and harness is Not a "added" cost option, so not on a phs.
The PHS is very much like the Bill of Lading that came
With the cars on delivery with the driver. I signed off on a bunch upon inspection, inventory and taking delivery. Three part carbon, then carbonless sheets.

Tellyshavilli 11-29-2021 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by necdb3 (Post 6298263)
I know of 2 69 T/A's with this alternator. I believe it was for low optioned T/A's.

All 69 TAs and FB 400s At least that’s what I found over 45 years

Tellyshavilli 11-29-2021 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack P. (Post 6298025)
Not sure if this is a correct for 69 Trans Am but I have a friend doing a nut and bolt resto on a real 69 T/A so he needs one like this. Something about a built in voltage regulator due to no room on the firewall I think because of the ram air pans. So, looking for one if anyone has one.

Pm sent

necdb3 11-29-2021 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tellyshavilli (Post 6298639)
All 69 TAs and FB 400s At least that’s what I found over 45 years

Would that include A/C cars?

Formulabruce 11-29-2021 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by necdb3 (Post 6298683)
Would that include A/C cars?

NO...

A Schab 11-30-2021 12:44 AM

The A/C T/A’s and 400 cars get the 55 amp 830 alt.


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