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gata79 01-12-2022 12:21 PM

73 formula SD
 
I found a 73 formula SD455,4 speed car, maroon color. It’s been sitting in a garage since 1983. I don’t see any rust, but it needs everything from sitting so long. 48000 miles. Does anyone have an idea of the value?

johnta1 01-12-2022 12:26 PM

:eek::eek::eek:

Don't know on price, but need more info and pics?

Is the SD engine there? Original engine?

What are they asking for it?

I'm sure I would never be able to afford it.

:o

gata79 01-12-2022 12:28 PM

It looks like it’s all original and a nice car when parked.

R 70 Judge 01-12-2022 12:42 PM

I’m unsure of the exact value but if it’s in presentable survivor condition and #’s matching I’d imagine you’re looking at six figure money. It’s one of only 10 4 speeds built.

That’s one hell of a find buddy!

eaglesan13 01-12-2022 01:14 PM

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Here is a similar car for sale, but there is no price listed in the ad. You might want to call them and see what they want for it even though it's an automatic. I called a couple of years ago and they wanted 99K for it, but maybe they want more now.

http://www.oldbrockmusclecars.com/mu...x?vehicleid=46

gata79 01-12-2022 01:28 PM

It looks like that one, but it’s no where near drivable. It is a 4 speed though, which has to add to the value. It will probably take 60,000 to buy it.

71GP76TA 01-12-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6309964)
It looks like that one, but it’s no where near drivable. It is a 4 speed though, which has to add to the value. It will probably take 60,000 to buy it.

I'd pay that if car is complete with original drivetrain and not rusty. They only made 10.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-12-2022 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6309964)
It looks like that one, but it’s no where near drivable. It is a 4 speed though, which has to add to the value. It will probably take 60,000 to buy it.

Easy Sale
Somewhere there is a breakdown for all colors on 73 SD Formula's
And it might list their transmission within the color break also.

Its a Holy Grail type car in any collection of any collector , being a 4spd.
The only one I can recall ever being openly available to the public was in the early 90's.
A couple or few have changed hands privately.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-12-2022 02:25 PM

X in the VIN
ZD block code
LS2 in raised cast numerals on Intake manifold
- quick reference points

bird72 01-12-2022 02:30 PM

It sounds way worth that. Desirable color. Beyond rare 4 speed. No rust. Dream car. Sounds like one between buy and money put in, there still will be some equity over cost.

Interior: Black? Custom? Console? curious.

johnta1 01-12-2022 03:19 PM

4 Florentine Red 4 speed SD Formulas.
(3 Florentine Red TH400 SD Formulas)

33 total SD Formulas in 1973.


:eek:

gata79 01-12-2022 06:02 PM

Red interior, console.

68bird400HO 01-12-2022 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=johnta1;6310006]4 Florentine Red 4 speed SD Formulas.
(3 Florentine Red TH400 SD Formulas)

33 total SD Formulas in 1973.


:eek:[/QUOTE

Isn't it 43 total SD Formulas; 10 4-speeds and 33 autos?

poncho-mike 01-12-2022 07:08 PM

My 74 SD Formula came out of the Easley SC area. I bought it back in the mid-80s.

R 70 Judge 01-12-2022 09:45 PM

http://lstwo.com/images/70050200106453985296.jpeg

johnta1 01-12-2022 10:09 PM

Quote:

Isn't it 43 total SD Formulas; 10 4-speeds and 33 autos?

Thanks, James. That is correct, I fat fingered it I think.


:o

keith k 01-12-2022 11:27 PM

Nice find.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-13-2022 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310062)
Red interior, console.

It would also have to be Deluxe Interior , only way that color was offered. (Burgandy / OxBlood)
We would all love to have that car, hope you can get it.

Gator67 01-13-2022 12:49 AM

I guess they’re still out there. That’s one I’d love to own.

Tellyshavilli 01-13-2022 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310062)
Red interior, console.

Wow SD & great colors to

Tellyshavilli 01-13-2022 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6309984)
X in the VIN
ZD block code
LS2 in raised cast numerals on Intake manifold
- quick reference points

ZJ 4 Spd block

Brewster 01-13-2022 08:21 AM

I believe its ZJ not ZD code for a 73 sd 4 speed block. Mahoney has one that Tiemann restored with poverty caps.

SD455DJ 01-13-2022 08:29 AM

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This one...

Dennis

Brewster 01-13-2022 08:41 AM

Yes sir, that would be the one. He wanted to race me against my stock 4 speed sd ta, title for title. I think your bro (Dan) had done that motor for him and I knew way better. Thus no racing with Rick that day ;)

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-13-2022 10:53 AM

Thanks for correcting the Block Code I posted.

Did / Does - Mahoney also own the Admirality Blue / White Std Interior 73 SD 4spd Formula ?
Someone posted pics of it after restored several years ago, and I thought they said it belonged to him.

gata79 01-13-2022 01:25 PM

I’ve made several offers and the price goes up each time. He now wants 100,000. Its like I’m bidding against myself. He says I’ll take 60,000, I say ok, then he says 75,000. I don’t even know if the engine can be rebuilt. The timing cover is so oxidized the timing chain can be seen through it.

starlightblack 01-13-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310217)
I’ve made several offers and the price goes up each time. He now wants 100,000. Its like I’m bidding against myself. He says I’ll take 60,000, I say ok, then he says 75,000. I don’t even know if the engine can be rebuilt. The timing cover is so oxidized the timing chain can be seen through it.

Walk away. He has no intention of selling you the car. Many times this kind of person only responds to cold, hard cash in a bag. But he will likely die with it still in his barn.

gata79 01-13-2022 01:36 PM

It’s not his car. He’s selling it for the wife of a man who has dementia. He’s actually a friend.

Tellyshavilli 01-13-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6310183)
Thanks for correcting the Block Code I posted.

Did / Does - Mahoney also own the Admirality Blue / White Std Interior 73 SD 4spd Formula ?
Someone posted pics of it after restored several years ago, and I thought they said it belonged to him.

No he does not

Tellyshavilli 01-13-2022 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310221)
It’s not his car. He’s selling it for the wife of a man who has dementia. He’s actually a friend.

Pm sent

Norwood 01-13-2022 02:20 PM

If it’s all there it’s worth 100,000

starlightblack 01-13-2022 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310221)
It’s not his car. He’s selling it for the wife of a man who has dementia. He’s actually a friend.

So he is playing games with his mentally-afflicted friend's car and his friends' wife's financial well-being? Nice guy.

I do not envy your position in this, but I hope it works out in your favor.

R 70 Judge 01-13-2022 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310217)
I’ve made several offers and the price goes up each time. He now wants 100,000. Its like I’m bidding against myself. He says I’ll take 60,000, I say ok, then he says 75,000. I don’t even know if the engine can be rebuilt. The timing cover is so oxidized the timing chain can be seen through it.

This happened to me once. The guy asked for an extra $20,000 on the side (that his wife couldn't know about) after we had already worked out the deal. I paid the extra money because the car was a once in a lifetime find.

With so many questions regarding the engine I wouldn't be so quick to agree to his ever-increasing prices.

jhein 01-13-2022 03:28 PM

He's trying to find your "walk away" point. Basically, he knows what the car is and he wants to find a guy with a big bank account who wants it no matter what (and that guy is out there somewhere). If you go to 100k, then he'll raise it to 120k, etc, etc. Unless you're willing to keep going up 'cause you really want it no matter what, I'd walk away. I agree that if it's all there it probably is worth 100k. But obviously, it is a "holy grail" car as has been said. So, If you can afford it, and you really do want it (who wouldn't) then it's worth it.

Formulabruce 01-13-2022 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310221)
It’s not his car. He’s selling it for the wife of a man who has dementia. He’s actually a friend.

That title in the man with Dimentia's name?
Wife has power of attorney?
That could cause some issues if he isn't of sound mind
And signing over anything.
Could be the " friend" gets to " keep anything you can get over xx dollars"
If you can see the timing chain, The body / frame can't be that good.
Guessing on value of unknown is a crap shoot..
Unseen at 100k?
I see a rebody...... my 2 cents

77 Canamman 01-13-2022 03:47 PM

I have seen cooling systems that were never maintained do major damage to the thermostat housing, and do a lot of damage to the front cover, but never eat through it to see the chain..

Norwood 01-13-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6309930)
I found a 73 formula SD455,4 speed car, maroon color. It’s been sitting in a garage since 1983. I don’t see any rust, but it needs everything from sitting so long. 48000 miles. Does anyone have an idea of the value?

Bruce I don’t see rebody in this statement. I guess we need pictures

unruhjonny 01-13-2022 07:36 PM

I will repeat essentially what has said before;

Wow, I guess there are still cars out there to find.

Cool find.

Hopefully the guys friend stops jerking you around on the price.

71GP76TA 01-13-2022 09:39 PM

I would lock up at the 60k and show him the cash ... I'd also demand a "signed" certificate title...


BTW... I'd give my left... well you know.... for mine to be a 4 speed...

Brewster 01-14-2022 08:07 AM

Did I miss a link to some pics ?

Norwood 01-14-2022 08:13 AM

No but we need them

gata79 01-14-2022 10:25 AM

Sd formula
 
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This is all I have. The car is packed tight in a garage.

bluebird455 01-14-2022 10:37 AM

By the pic it looks like he knows what these cars are worth, He's probably thinking around six figures or close to it, if All is there as far as #matching SD car.

unruhjonny 01-14-2022 11:13 AM

:oogle: ... drool

77 Canamman 01-14-2022 11:39 AM

He can pretty much name his price considering the pedigree.

They are most certainly still out there! LOL

jhein 01-14-2022 12:02 PM

Wow, I need a cigarette. That car doesn't look like it would have a rotted through front cover, but I guess you never know. If I had that car I wouldn't let it go for less than 100k rotted cover or not. 1 of 10? Come on...

4dblnkldude 01-14-2022 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=jhein;6310566]Wow, I need a cigarette. LOL, me too and I don't smoke. What an unreal find, hope it works out!!

Brewster 01-14-2022 01:30 PM

Wonder what else is in that garage? Looks like she has tight lines and clean exterior. Custom or deluxe interior too. Nice!

71GP76TA 01-14-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 6310526)
This is all I have. The car is packed tight in a garage.

Looks a lot better than I had pictured. Its probably worth the 100k or more as is if the engine isn't locked up and the underside isn't rusty. Appears to be a low mile original paint survivor. Probably 175k car running.. driving.. cleaned up and ready to go.

jhein 01-14-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewster (Post 6310589)
Wonder what else is in that garage?

Yeah. It looks like that may be another 2nd gen F body right next to it under that cover. Who knows what else.


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