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Firedup6975 01-26-2022 11:24 AM

Barrett Jackson
 
All this week on FYI finally a nice amount of really nice Pontiacs going across the block, I’m very pleased to see that Trans AMs are finally getting the respect they deserve and prices are up there. Some very nice GTO’s as well. So far less Camaros and Corvettes, but pick up trucks and off road vehicles on he rise in popularity.

burd 01-26-2022 01:06 PM

I see you have to pay to get the channel, I’m bummed, really like Barrett Jackson, after trying to watch the painful Mecum auction is as really looking forward to the event. just not paying for it.

racegto65 01-26-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by burd (Post 6313746)
I see you have to pay to get the channel, I’m bummed, really like Barrett Jackson, after trying to watch the painful Mecum auction is as really looking forward to the event. just not paying for it.

Try this I just went to their website and it offered free streaming
Friend of mine had a truck there yesterday and it did well

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Live...6b00d316/BLOCK

george kujanski 01-26-2022 04:14 PM

I really can't stand the auctioneer babbling on any of those.....what the hell is the purpose of the babbling???????

The Bonham-type of auction like on Chasing Classic Cars makes a lot more sense to me...............

george

dhcarguy 01-26-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by george kujanski (Post 6313809)
I really can't stand the auctioneer babbling on any of those.....what the hell is the purpose of the babbling???????

The Bonham-type of auction like on Chasing Classic Cars makes a lot more sense to me...............

george

I agree, it's RIDICUOUS. I would watch longer without it

Firedup6975 01-26-2022 06:49 PM

I like that Steve gives a little history of the cars seems like he is very knowledgeable about every car or truck that goes through. I can’t be positive but I think they may be changing channels tomorrow or Friday? Thought I heard them say that but I was walking into another room.

Firedup6975 01-26-2022 06:55 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many 70’s trucks, and Patina cars.

Firedup6975 01-26-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by burd (Post 6313746)
I see you have to pay to get the channel, I’m bummed, really like Barrett Jackson, after trying to watch the painful Mecum auction is as really looking forward to the event. just not paying for it.

FYI is part of my package I don’t pay extra for it.

bluejudge 01-26-2022 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313709)
All this week on FYI finally a nice amount of really nice Pontiacs going across the block, I’m very pleased to see that Trans AMs are finally getting the respect they deserve and prices are up there. Some very nice GTO’s as well. So far less Camaros and Corvettes, but pick up trucks and off road vehicles on he rise in popularity.


100k for a 77 Trans Am. Not bad.

Firedup6975 01-26-2022 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bluejudge (Post 6313913)
100k for a 77 Trans Am. Not bad.


I just saw that, and not even a Burt car. Nice survivor!

Firedup6975 01-26-2022 09:58 PM

That black 65 GTO was pretty nice price also for a coupe.

bluejudge 01-26-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313918)
I just saw that, and not even a Burt car. Nice survivor!

Looks like the Burt car goes on Saturday, I would say now, that is going to go for big bucks. Also want to see what the 69 Trans Am with the Ram Air 4 goes for.

Firedup6975 01-26-2022 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bluejudge (Post 6313926)
Looks like the Burt car goes on Saturday, I would say now, that is going to go for big bucks. Also want to see what the 69 Trans Am with the Ram Air 4 goes for.


It was a promo car, not in the movie, but since Burt owned it that will be enough for it to command a 6 figure price, same with that 69 TA. It’s nice to finally see some Pontiacs being brought to Barrett, and they’re bringing some nice money. :cool:

bluejudge 01-27-2022 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313935)
It was a promo car, not in the movie, but since Burt owned it that will be enough for it to command a 6 figure price, same with that 69 TA. It’s nice to finally see some Pontiacs being brought to Barrett, and they’re bringing some nice money. :cool:

I always said if your buying a Pontiac, They are usually under the radar at BJ. If your selling one, Mecum is the way to go. Looks like now BJ is starting to catch up with the Pontiac’s. We shall see.

Wakepowell 01-27-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313935)
It was a promo car, not in the movie, but since Burt owned it that will be enough for it to command a 6 figure price, same with that 69 TA. It’s nice to finally see some Pontiacs being brought to Barrett, and they’re bringing some nice money. :cool:

Don't get too excited about the '69 Trans Am ( 223379N104523 ). It sold for $180k at the last auction (Mecum) and it has a lot of stories behind it.....Not a good representation of what a '69 Trans Am RAIV is worth.

77 Canamman 01-27-2022 09:19 AM

The Burt T/A at this Barrett Jackson was owned by Burt for a few years several years ago while he lived in Florida at his now defunct ranch. This one should easily eclipse the $500k the last one sold for 5 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q04GKqeq9GU

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2...pjpg&auto=webp

johnta1 01-27-2022 10:49 AM

Our local paper (Daily Commercial, Tue Jan 25) had an article on Burt's last TA he owned. They could not find any evidence if used in the film. There was a fire that destroyed a lot of the paper work.
He also had the one that sold for $550,000.

He collects movie cars. Has Duke of Hazzards and more.
Has a place in Palmetto FL.


:)

einstein 01-27-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313856)
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many 70’s trucks, and Patina cars.

Many "patina" survivors have a certain charm to them. However many do not, but since a high-quality restoration paint job is well into 5 figures, it's a no-brainer as to why they've become popular.

Firedup6975 01-27-2022 12:27 PM

Saturday will be the day the cream of the crop according to Craig Jackson will go across the block guess I’ll be watching to see who has more money then sense lol. :D

RamAirBirds 01-28-2022 10:27 AM

Hey Wakepowell...Out of 100% respect I am curious.....Did you actually go and see this 69 TA as you suggested you were going to do? Or is this just info gathered from the "Pontiac Rumor Mill"..
Just Curious...As an owner of a RAIV TA I hate to see the sale of a car be "suppressed" by words....Everything stated in the previous post left the air of a problem car but with no details it could be more harmful than helpful...Especially for the market...which is important to EVERYONE involved...
I can certainly understand why you would NOT post negative details about a car here but.......isn't this kind of what is happening? Why not go all the way and state what has been "heard" or "said" about the car...THAT may be helpful...This way if the sale is LESS THAN MARKET everyone will be able to point to a reason why...Again, helps the market...
Thanks for letting me put my thoughts out there on this...Some of this stuff is more important than people realize...
Again, just putting my personal thoughts out there...

Firedup6975 01-28-2022 11:06 AM

Anyone actually seriously interested in buying any car auction or other should do their homework before they put their hand up to bid, as well check the car out before it hits the block that way no surprises when you paid 6 figures then have buyers remorse. :) documentation is key, inspection also key.

Observations from sitting in your living room recliner tells you very little!

Wakepowell 01-28-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6314348)
Anyone actually seriously interested in buying any car auction or other should do their homework before they put their hand up to bid, as well check the car out before it hits the block that way no surprises when you paid 6 figures then have buyers remorse. :) documentation is key, inspection also key.

Observations from sitting in your living room recliner tells you very little!

So very well said

Wakepowell 01-28-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RamAirBirds (Post 6314336)
Hey Wakepowell...Out of 100% respect I am curious.....Did you actually go and see this 69 TA as you suggested you were going to do? Or is this just info gathered from the "Pontiac Rumor Mill"..
Just Curious...As an owner of a RAIV TA I hate to see the sale of a car be "suppressed" by words....Everything stated in the previous post left the air of a problem car but with no details it could be more harmful than helpful...Especially for the market...which is important to EVERYONE involved...
I can certainly understand why you would NOT post negative details about a car here but.......isn't this kind of what is happening? Why not go all the way and state what has been "heard" or "said" about the car...THAT may be helpful...This way if the sale is LESS THAN MARKET everyone will be able to point to a reason why...Again, helps the market...
Thanks for letting me put my thoughts out there on this...Some of this stuff is more important than people realize...
Again, just putting my personal thoughts out there...

Thanks for your questions, yes I am here at BJ and I have inspected the car as well as gathered photos from previous inspections. Your points are very valid and I agree with them.

If you would like more info, feel free to PM me.

Hopefully anyone interested in buying this car or any car of this rarity should do there due diligence like I have done.

Formulajones 01-28-2022 12:09 PM

We were there earlier this week. Looked at the 69 TA. The car presents well. As far as stories, don't know. Owner wasn't around to ask questions. Many of the cars are vetted if asked and/or paid for the service. Something many other auctions don't offer. Pontiacs are a little different bread though. You have PHS availability but don't know if anyone is on site to vette the Ponchos like there are for Chevrolets and the like.

As far as Pontiacs go, Barrett Jackson always has a large selection and each year seems to be a different flavor. Just a couple years ago they had no less than 10 or 12 69 GTO judges and they all sold for over 6 figures. This year I saw a 74 GTO that went across the block yesterday for $45k, and a very nice silver 70 judge with the RAIII 4 speed hammered at $64k yesterday that was a very nice looking car in person. Respectable prices that aren't over the top. They have quite a few 76-79 black and gold TA's on the premises. I saw a nice Coronado gold 70 Formula loaded with nice options while I was there too. Caught my eye as it's nearly identical to mine. Been a long time since I've seen a real 70 Formula at the auction. I think that goes across today. There were several 68-69 GTO's and several 65's as well as quite a few 67 GTO's we saw.

As far as prices go, so far I haven't seen anything that is too crazy. If you watched Mecum in Florida a week or two ago, now those prices were absolutely nuts. Remains to be seen today and tomorrow if BJ starts commanding higher prices as the better stuff starts coming across.

What they do seem to be light on this year is 69 Z/28's (I mean real ones) and 70-72 Z/28's. I only saw one 71 Z/28 in the main tent, that was it. They had maybe 2 or 3 69 Z/28's that were nice and vetted by Jerry. Those go across this weekend and will command the higher prices. A couple of really nice LS6 Chevelles, one convertable, but not as many as I've seen at BJ in the past. Quite a few hemi cars. Overall a fairly wide selection of some pretty neat stuff.

455dan 01-28-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313853)
I like that Steve gives a little history of the cars seems like he is very knowledgeable about every car or truck that goes through. I can’t be positive but I think they may be changing channels tomorrow or Friday? Thought I heard them say that but I was walking into another room.

Looks Like the Live coverage has switched to History Channel.
For DISH subscribers that is channel 120
Guide shows coverage starting at Noon today
3 pm local time Saturday. Maybe different time for other areas

Formulajones 01-28-2022 02:04 PM

Coronado Gold 70 Formula just hammered at $42k. Not crazy at all and about what I would expect to see on the regular market.

Stuart 01-28-2022 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6313853)
I like that Steve gives a little history of the cars seems like he is very knowledgeable about every car or truck that goes through.

Steve Magnante has a YouTube channel, and in one of his recent videos he goes through the research he does to prepare for the auctions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOsYdmTJcoY His other videos are mostly junkyard crawls, but now that it's winter he's been concentrating on videos about scale models. He does those videos from his living room; I'm pretty sure he's single, based on the living room decor. :)

Formulajones 01-28-2022 05:45 PM

He seems like a nice guy. While I was there looking at a 69 Hemi Charger, he just walked right up beside me and was taking pictures of the engine. I didn't even realize it at first. I said hi, he was polite but I didn't want to hold him up. Seemed like he was jumping from car to car taking certain pics.

Firedup6975 01-28-2022 06:38 PM

Oh my goodness that mint turquoise with red interior GTO was stunning! 1 of 1 mistake. :D

Formulajones 01-29-2022 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6314515)
Oh my goodness that mint turquoise with red interior GTO was stunning! 1 of 1 mistake. :D

Someone liked it, it brought $159k :D

We looked at it, it was actually a stunning combination when seen in person

Riverbird455 01-29-2022 05:48 PM

I was looking at the Mecam website at results from their auction in Florida, was it 2 weeks ago? Anyway, I thought the mid to late 2nd gen trans ams were going at much higher prices, actually thought all cars were getting higher prices. I wonder if it is that COVID phenomenon where people have more money in their pockets because they haven't been able to spend it..... like trips, vacations, new cars, etc.

A 75 like mine (455 4sp) got $49,500, I was gobsmacked.

Just something I was noticing.

Formulajones 01-29-2022 06:17 PM

Yes Mecum was bringing some higher prices, more than most expected.

There was a 76 455/4-speed TA at BJ. Nice car, black/gold, I looked at it a few days ago. If I'm not mistaken it grabbed something like $65k?? I'd have to go back to verify.

Another 69 Z/28 just hammered at $265k. That makes 3 of them now over the $200k mark. I was expecting to see them a bit higher this year, but not that much.

Formulajones 01-29-2022 06:58 PM

We looked at this 69 GTO convertable. Had the new LT4 engine swapped in. Just a beautiful car.

It just hammered for $400k, call it $440k after buyer fee.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ERTIBLE-251477

31 B'ville 01-29-2022 07:02 PM

After many years of watching Barrett-Jackson I have found the only way I can get through the seemingly endless slog of commercials, late model "special editions", Corvettes, Camaros, celebrity cars, and anything remotely connected to Carroll Shelby, is to record it and speedscan through it. This cuts my viewing time to about 1/3 of the broadcast time. Also, too many times the Pontiacs are approaching the block when they cut to a commercial, or they may briefly recap one that was sold during the break. Streaming from their site does help this and you can also see cars that go over the block during non-broadcast times, although I don't have the patience to spend the required time to stream it.

Formulajones 01-29-2022 07:13 PM

We stream it so we don't miss anything from commercials and it cuts out the jabber from the broadcasters on stage.

As usual, we are vastly different from most car people as we like pretty much everything, but to cut down on viewing time we walk the premises days before and take note of the cars we want to pay attention to, which consequently is a pretty large list. With lot numbers you get a good idea when they'll roll across. During prime time evenings I just leave it on anyway.

Riverbird455 01-29-2022 07:38 PM

Funny, I do the same - I dvr it and watch later, can fast forward thru commercials, etc. It really does cut down on the time it takes to watch. I have Thursday, Friday, and today recorded and haven't watched a minute of it yet. Have been too busy this week, plus I retire in less than a month and can then watch at my leisure!

We also want to get away from winter and travel down to Scottsdale to walk around and look at the cars some year soon, never been to anything like that. Other fun things to do down there as well, like be outside when it is not below 0. Although, went cross country skiing this morning out back, we do enjoy that. Will definitely have more time next year.

Cannot wait to get more work done around the house and in the yard, and do some maintenance on my car. There just isn't enough time to get everything done on weekends. Soon I will be saying, "what's a weekend?"

Formulajones 01-29-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverbird455 (Post 6314788)
Funny, I do the same - I dvr it and watch later, can fast forward thru commercials, etc. It really does cut down on the time it takes to watch. I have Thursday, Friday, and today recorded and haven't watched a minute of it yet. Have been too busy this week, plus I retire in less than a month and can then watch at my leisure!

Cannot wait to have the time to get some work done around the house and yard, and do some maintenance on my car. There just isn't enough time to get everything done on weekends. Soon I will be saying, "what's a wekend?"

congrats :thumbup:

tininjun68 01-29-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulajones (Post 6314774)
We looked at this 69 GTO convertable. Had the new LT4 engine swapped in. Just a beautiful car.

It just hammered for $400k, call it $440k after buyer fee.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ERTIBLE-251477

It does look nice but what's with the lazy RH hideaway headlight door? I guess $400k doesn't go as far as it used to.... : D

Firedup6975 01-29-2022 09:14 PM

Wayyyyyyy to many commercials! I missed the burgundy 73 455 SD TA anyone see it go across?

Firedup6975 01-29-2022 09:17 PM

No interest in all the “Super Cars” and their million dollar price tags CRIKEY! Where the Good cars lol :D

muscle_collector 01-29-2022 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wakepowell (Post 6314358)
Thanks for your questions, yes I am here at BJ and I have inspected the car as well as gathered photos from previous inspections. Your points are very valid and I agree with them.

If you would like more info, feel free to PM me.

Hopefully anyone interested in buying this car or any car of this rarity should do there due diligence like I have done.

who ended up buying the ra4 judge? i heard it brought around 160k

Firedup6975 01-29-2022 10:46 PM

Well the Bandit TA GM promo car brought $450,000 and they cut it off immediately not giving it any time to go higher. Barely said anything about it, like all the other celeb super cars and allowing a lot of time between bids to get it higher.

400 4spd. 01-29-2022 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6314838)
Well the Bandit TA GM promo car brought $450,000 and they cut it off immediately not giving it any time to go higher. Barely said anything about it, like all the other celeb super cars and allowing a lot of time between bids to get it higher.

That bid delay privilege is reserved for anything Shelby. Or anything Craig is selling. Been that way for years.

tom s 01-29-2022 11:13 PM

The IV 69 TA went for 105

400 4spd. 01-29-2022 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tom s (Post 6314846)
The IV 69 TA went for 105

I wonder if it was bought by a forum member.

tom s 01-29-2022 11:46 PM

Bought by a guy at the venue.

tigergto 01-30-2022 07:15 AM

I always DVR the auctions and FF through the commercials. This year I’m going through the BJ episodes in no time at all. Seems the commercial times have really expanded.

1965gp 01-30-2022 02:56 PM

I was at the auction- fantastic time as always. A few notes:

The General Lee that sold for $225k was amazingly similar to my season 2 General Lee. I got dizzy when it sold for that much. Talked to the seller and buyer- both extremely happy. Note it was a 68 that they added 69 grill/tail lights. They filled where they 68 turn signals were but did not put the 69 turn signals in.

Bandit cars are on fire. The mile high car sold for 65k and had faded old decals. I would have thought mine would be worth 30- it’s actually double that.

The psychedelic 70 Judge was awesome. It was in a well lit area and they really should have buffed the paint.

The Ram Air 4 TA looked okay at a quick glance- but both it and the 69 Judge from the mile high collection were not detailed. No fresh wax, no tire dressing, no engine detailing.

Did anyone notice the red 70 GTO that sold for 30k? Awful. Just terrible. They listed it with a 242237…… vin. It was actually a 237 vin. Hopefully the buyer can get some money back

I agree that Jackson must have had a friend bidding on Burts TA. It stopped suddenly

Never thought I would see the day when a 74 GTO went for 50k and a real 70 Judge was going for 70k

Are we now at the point where a black and gold TA is worth as much as a 69 TA?

Formulajones 01-30-2022 03:07 PM

I don't think we'll ever see the point where mid to late 70's black and gold TA's will be worth as much as a 69 TA. If we do then the car market has turned upside down.

What you need is a good example of a 69 TA to compare with. There were quite a few very nice black and gold 70's TA's at BJ this year, some with good history and of course one with high profile ownership that certainly helped the price. Personally I liked the black/gold 76 455 4-speed the most out of all of them.

Even the 70-72 TA's weren't all that well represented this year. One of the 71 or 72 TA's I looked at had 4x heads on it. That was enough to make me move on to the next car.

I think part of the mystique that adds flavor to a 69 TA is not just the rarity of them, but their connection to SCCA Trans Am racing and some of the history they made.

A real 70 Judge going for $70k doesn't surprise me, since the 69's have been fetching 6 figures for a few years now. It's about time the 70 got some love, it's still a great looking car and offered with the same drivetrain options before the low compression stuff hit. In my eye's it's a pretty good bang for the buck when you compare that way. I also feel with the right options a 70 could go higher. Did you see the aqua colored 70 with red interior? It sold for $159k People obviously like those factory odd color combinations, even more than engine options in some cases.

Firedup6975 01-30-2022 04:52 PM

Awful funny how the bidding on the Burt car stopped in less then a heartbeat, and the winner was right at the exit ramp to sign the papers, like $450k was the magic number. Hmmmmmm all those super cars before it got a lot of time between bidders by the auctioneer but that TA got cut instantly. they let Pit Bull ramble on and on wasting time taking over the show then cut this car off?


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