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north 10-31-2022 03:55 PM

GM firsts
 
GM gets and deserves a lot of barbs, but I read an interesting piece done 20 years ago about GM and some of the first in the world things it gave us. In chronological order (including companies that became part of GM later:

1901 mass produced car, Olds
1912 starter motor, Cad
1915 V8, Cad
1917 low-high beam system, Cad
1924 proving grounds
1927 electric wipers, Cad
1928 syncro transmission, Cad
1929 radio, Cad (Lasalle)
1932 metallic paint, Chev
1934 crash testing
1938 column shifter, Pon
1939 auto trans, Olds
1939 turn signal, Buick
1952 automatic lamp dimmer, Olds
1957 air ride, Cad
1962 turbocharger, Olds
1964 automatic temp AC, Cad
1965 tilt wheel
1966 heated seats, Cad
1971 high mount brake light, Olds
1971 traction control, Buick
1973 airbag
1975 catalytic converter
1976 trip computer, Cad
1981 cylinder deactivation, Cad
1988 heads up display, Olds
1996 auto wipers, Cad
2000 night vision, Cad
2001 satellite radio, Cad

Pretty impressive list, I guess despite all the idiocy that went on there were some sharpies too!

Half-Inch Stud 10-31-2022 05:02 PM

Missed several dramatic Automotive firsts:

Air-to-Sea Torpedos 1940
Overhead Valves 1954
Rocker Arms on Ball/Stud 1954
Overhead Cam 1966?
Reverb; 1967
Hoodtach 1967?
Body-Color Rubber/Steel Bumper 1968

Jeff Hamlin 10-31-2022 05:35 PM

As far as 1966 OHC 6;
 
First US Production 6 with OHC design.
First Belt Driven Camshaft on an American engine.

Stuart 10-31-2022 06:02 PM

The Jeep Tornado overhead cam six was introduced in 1962, although it wasn't belt driven. Of course, OHC engines have been around in various configurations since 1910 or earlier.
I think several of the OEMs had reverbs as well as the aftermarket. I don't know who was first, but reverb was an available accessory for the 1965 Imperial.
I'm not sure air to sea torpedos qualify as an automotive first. ;)

694.1 10-31-2022 06:09 PM

Saginaw tilt was available in '63. Fascinating stuff.

Keith Seymore 10-31-2022 06:28 PM

1st concept car: Buick Y job

1st industrial design/styling center: The GM Art and Color Studio

1st hidden windshield wiper system - '69 GP?

1st windshield hidden radio antenna

K

Keith Seymore 10-31-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud (Post 6383708)
Missed several dramatic Automotive firsts:

Air-to-Sea Torpedos 1940
Overhead Valves 1954
Rocker Arms on Ball/Stud 1954
Overhead Cam 1966?
Reverb; 1967
Hoodtach 1967?
Body-Color Rubber/Steel Bumper 1968

My '65 GTO has the reverb -

K

Half-Inch Stud 10-31-2022 06:38 PM

Yea, i threw those out on a wag. Cast iron V8 crankshaft circa 1960 was another gem.

Sirrotica 10-31-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6383729)
1st concept car: Buick Y job

1st industrial design/styling center: The GM Art and Color Studio

1st hidden windshield wiper system - '69 GP?

1st windshield hidden radio antenna

K

Keith, 67 B body had hidden wipers, (depressed park), Pontiac made a big deal about it in their advertising that year.

No one mentioned the 66 Toranado FWD, then the Eldorado soon after. Not the first cars with FWD, but it was a big deal at the time since Cord I believe last tried it in 1929ish, through 1937?

Jeff Hamlin 10-31-2022 07:08 PM

To be clear PMD didn't state First OHC, they stated it was the First US production "CAR" to use it.
They were splitting hairs for sure ;) :D

Formulabruce 10-31-2022 07:14 PM

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1st Production Turbochaged V-8 in the USA 1980 PONTIAC
1st 4 speed automatic overdrive ( GM/Cad) 1943 ( IIRC these were put into Tanks)
1st and Only US Company to use "Rocket fuel" ,1962 OLDSMOBILE ( refill tank under hood)
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Stuart 10-31-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6383749)
1st Production Turbochaged V-8 in the USA 1980 PONTIAC
1st 4 speed automatic overdrive ( GM/Cad) 1943 ( IIRC these were put into Tanks)
1st and Only US Company to use "Rocket fuel" ,1962 OLDSMOBILE ( refill tank under hood)

The 1962 Olds Jetfire was the first production turbocharged V8. That fluid was a 50:50 mix of methanol and distilled water, under boost it was injected into the intake to cool the charge.

The Champ 10-31-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by north (Post 6383696)
1964 automatic temp AC, Cad
1965 tilt wheel

My '64 GTO was equipped with the tilt wheel option from the factory, so '65 was not the first year of the tilt wheel.

Also, the '64 GTO was the first car to have red line tires available and a Hurst shifter...

Jack Gifford 11-01-2022 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud (Post 6383708)
... Overhead Valves 1954...

Buicks were OHV from the start in 1908.

Half-Inch Stud 11-01-2022 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Gifford (Post 6383824)
Buicks were OHV from the start in 1908.

. I did not know that.

mgarblik 11-01-2022 08:51 AM

The OP initial list has a number of mistakes, but not going to nit pick. GM had an impressive list of real great innovations. Surprisingly, Chrysler had a similar list of first's as well and Ford. They weren't called the big 3 for nothing!

Mr Anonymous 11-01-2022 09:08 AM

The list of shame could be good too:

Cardboard door panels (Chevette)
Plastic cam gears
Plastic intake manifolds
Soy based wiring insulation (if we make it taste like food, mice wouldnt eat it, would they?)
2.14 rear gears
etc

This could get interesting....

Sirrotica 11-01-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Anonymous (Post 6383853)
The list of shame could be good too:

Cardboard door panels (Chevette)
Plastic cam gears
Plastic intake manifolds
Soy based wiring insulation (if we make it taste like food, mice wouldnt eat it, would they?)
2.14 rear gears
etc

This could get interesting....

The vega/astre, I can't think of any good things about that car..........:D

b-man 11-01-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Anonymous (Post 6383853)
The list of shame could be good too:

Cardboard door panels (Chevette)
Plastic cam gears
Plastic intake manifolds
Soy based wiring insulation (if we make it taste like food, mice wouldnt eat it, would they?)
2.14 rear gears
etc

This could get interesting....

Aztec.....:confused:

kingbuzzo 11-01-2022 11:26 AM

1st built-in tent?

Maybe not...lol

71GP76TA 11-01-2022 11:31 AM

IIRC.. My '64 Grand Prix had reverb.

Tom Vaught 11-01-2022 12:42 PM

MY 64 GTO HAS REVERB, FROM THE FACTORY.

Tom V

GTOnly70 11-01-2022 01:14 PM

Pioneers in badge engineering.

carbking 11-01-2022 04:24 PM

Not sure about the first V-8.

There were quite a few early V-8 engines (Regal had one in 1916, with one of my favorite carburetors - a brass 2-barrel updraft).

But I don't care enough either way about it to do the research.

Jon

Keith Seymore 11-01-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirrotica (Post 6383861)
The vega/astre, I can't think of any good things about that car..........:D

They make great little drag cars with the addition of a V8 -

K

Sirrotica 11-01-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6383962)
They make great little drag cars with the addition of a V8 -

K

As long as you save the sheet metal and replace everything else.

Had a friend that tried to race one with the unibody, after every wheel stand he was pulling the frame back into alignment. The K member collapsed in road cars, and had to be spread apart so they wouldn't tear the inside of the tires off, so race car duty didn't work out too well.

Stuart 11-01-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carbking (Post 6383951)
Not sure about the first V-8.

There were quite a few early V-8 engines (Regal had one in 1916, with one of my favorite carburetors - a brass 2-barrel updraft).

But I don't care enough either way about it to do the research.

Jon

The 1914 Cadillac is generally considered to be the first mass production V8 car. There were a couple other brands with V8s prior to Cadillac, but they were only built in very small numbers.

The Champ 11-01-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by b-man (Post 6383881)
Aztec.....:confused:

What's wrong with the Aztec?

My daughter leased a first year Aztec and liked it so much she bought her second one - which she still owns.

carbking 11-01-2022 07:15 PM

Stuart - when you add "mass produced" to the description, I have no argument; however the list stated first V-8 without the disclaimer.

Jon

jerry455 11-01-2022 07:45 PM

GM does not use the Soy based insulated wire. It does not meet GM's temperature specs. That was the foreign manufacturers that stared using it. Look up the class action lawsuits, I think against Honda and Toyota. They have lots of complaints about it. I believe the artificial heart was developed by GM Research; I don't remember the date. I will have to look for a book that was given out at a GM open house, it had lots of things GM developed. My dad worked at GMR for 49 years and I have been at GM for 33 years so far.

Stuart 11-01-2022 09:59 PM

I think the Aztec was ahead of its time. When it came out it was totally weird looking, but ten years later on it mostly blended in with the styling of other cars. From what I understand, once you get past their looks they're pretty reliable cars and Aztec owners tend to be really enthusiastic about them.

SRR 11-02-2022 12:59 AM

I think GM also were the first to mass produce refrigerators?

The Champ 11-02-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SRR (Post 6384060)
I think GM also were the first to mass produce refrigerators?

GM owned Frigidaire from from 1919 until 1979 as part of their Delco division.

72projectbird 11-02-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6383729)
1st concept car: Buick Y job

1st industrial design/styling center: The GM Art and Color Studio

1st hidden windshield wiper system - '69 GP?

1st windshield hidden radio antenna

K


If we're talking GM, the 68 Corvette had hidden wipers

srmmmm 11-02-2022 06:16 PM

Cosworth Vega - 1st DOHC 4-Valve Head American production engine with stainless steel headers as well.

I did my co-op at the Lordstown plant while attending General Motors Institute. During one work segment, I was responsible for designing all the small hand tool assembly aids used to "dress" the Cosworth short block on the engine line.

necdb3 11-02-2022 07:45 PM

Who was the first to use Fiber optics? Corvettes got it in 1968.

1969GiPper 11-02-2022 08:42 PM

What about the heated rear window defogger grid on the 69 Grand Prix?

mgarblik 11-02-2022 08:53 PM

I will throw a few in for Charles Kettering, DELCO, (Dayton Electric Co.), Division of GM. Electric self starter, Point distributor ignition system, Leaded premium gasoline, first sold at a SOHIO station, downtown Dayton, Freon refrigerant, DUCO lacquer based fast dry paint. (He was a little tough on the environment)

242177P 11-02-2022 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by necdb3 (Post 6384275)
Who was the first to use Fiber optics? Corvettes got it in 1968.

68 Pontiac did too. Cigarette lighter, IIRC.

Half-Inch Stud 11-03-2022 08:50 AM

67-68 LeMans has fiber optic to the Lighter & ashtray. 68 had it to the IGN switch.

Think Caddy or Buick had tail lamp indicators in the package tray fro Driver to see.

necdb3 11-03-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud (Post 6384348)
67-68 LeMans has fiber optic to the Lighter & ashtray. 68 had it to the IGN switch.

Think Caddy or Buick had tail lamp indicators in the package tray fro Driver to see.

The Corvettes used it for light bulb monitors mounted on the consoles.

71GP76TA 11-03-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Champ (Post 6383997)
What's wrong with the Aztec?

My daughter leased a first year Aztec and liked it so much she bought her second one - which she still owns.

Aside from being "different" looking. The Aztec was a pretty good car and idea. It was so good that Honda copied the concept by producing the Element.

carbking 11-03-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 72projectbird (Post 6384194)
If we're talking GM, the 68 Corvette had hidden wipers

It should be unlawful to sell vehicles with hidden wipers where the ambient dips below 32 degrees F.! :p :mad:

Jon

Mr Anonymous 11-03-2022 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71GP76TA (Post 6384389)
Honda copied the concept by producing the Element.

On the periodic table, its Uglium.

Sirrotica 11-03-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Anonymous (Post 6384409)
On the periodic table, its Uglium.

When I used to work for a vendor that rented aerial lift equipment to contractors at the Marysville Honda plant, I was inside that plant quite a lot. One time I saw the prototype for the Element sitting outside, and I noticed the lower panels weren't painted the body color (flat black). I chalked it up to that they weren't painted because it was a prototype. Nope, that was how they were going to be produced.....:D

I always wondered if they painted them body color, how much more would they tack on to the price of complete paint job. A few years later they did start painting the whole car.

mgarblik 11-03-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirrotica (Post 6384423)
When I used to work for a vendor that rented aerial lift equipment to contractors at the Marysville Honda plant, I was inside that plant quite a lot. One time I saw the prototype for the Element sitting outside, and I noticed the lower panels weren't painted the body color (flat black). I chalked it up to that they weren't painted because it was a prototype. Nope, that was how they were going to be produced.....:D

I always wondered if they painted them body color, how much more would they tack on to the price of complete paint job. A few years later they did start painting the whole car.

We always joked that the Aztek was just a Montana Van with the ugly kit installed and a higher price. The Element is a CRV with a similar ugly kit installed. So yes, some similarity.


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