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HWYSTR455 04-29-2023 09:13 AM

Repop Air Dam to Valance Fit
 
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So my body guy was trying to mock up the air dam to valance on my '71, and there's like a 2" gap between the mount tab and the valance.

Is there some kind of bracket or stand-off that's used to mount the air dam? It's been so long since I've dealt with this that I honestly can't recall.

I know I don't see anything in the exploded diagrams in assembly manuals, but know that doesn't always portray the actual.

Is it the repop air dam, repop valance, or a missing part/bracket/stand-off?

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Norwood 04-29-2023 09:24 AM

https://www.firebirdcentral.com/1970...p/spo-2024.htm

HWYSTR455 04-29-2023 09:35 AM

THANK YOU EXTREMELY MUCH!!!

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72projectbird 04-29-2023 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Norwood (Post 6424352)


Hm, I didn't know they made that. On my 71 I made it out of some random hardware from Home Depot. It actually looks pretty close to that kit lol

HWYSTR455 04-29-2023 10:41 AM

I think previously I used PVC tubing, but don't recall exactly. Can use aluminum tubing too I guess.

I think the one air dam I ordered came with plastic stand offs in a bag taped to the air dam, but we are talking 20+ years, so memory is foggy on it.

Finally getting around to this car, last time I drove it was like in 2000! Will do a build thread once it comes back from body & paint. Going to be a restomod, just forewarning!


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Trevor78 04-29-2023 12:12 PM

I'm not familiar with the early years. Did they change the mounting setup or was it the spoiler, or perhaps the repro? This is the 72 scan.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3536d378_b.jpgScreenshot (8) by Ben, on Flickr

HWYSTR455 04-29-2023 12:54 PM

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Yeah, that's the one I've seen before, and it's not the full picture. It basically only shows the end fasteners.

The Firebird Central part(s) show the correct hardware & pic of the 3 center attachment points, and that is exactly what I needed.

The pic is horrible quality tho...

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Trevor78 04-29-2023 01:03 PM

Gotcha.

Transamric 04-29-2023 03:25 PM

The 1972 (& '73) valance and spoiler diagrams will show incorrect hardware for '70 & '71 since '72's used a plastic valance and didn't require the "standoff" tubing pieces.

Norwood 04-29-2023 07:02 PM

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Nos kit

Trevor78 05-01-2023 01:28 AM

These would still be a dealer install item after delivery? Not sure if that affects the lack of detail in manuals. I've seem several non-TA owners add the front air dams only, end up with similar tube spacers on the ends where would normally meet up with wheel flares.

HWYSTR455 07-17-2023 07:15 PM

I ordered my set from Firebird Central on 4/29, and still have not received it yet.

Does anyone know the length of tubes and bolts? Or have a set they can let go?


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Transamric 07-17-2023 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=HWYSTR455;6440715]I ordered my set from Firebird Central on 4/29, and still have not received it yet.

Likewise here, although not quite as long. They keep telling me "next week."

HWYSTR455 07-17-2023 08:14 PM

Great. If I had the dimensions I would just make the dang things. I guess my body guy could make them too, but not sure I want him to. He's 2 states away or I would do it...


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Norwood 07-17-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HWYSTR455 (Post 6440715)
I ordered my set from Firebird Central on 4/29, and still have not received it yet.

Likewise here, although not quite as long. They keep telling me "next week."

I have it on good authority that they will have stock in two weeks.

Held for Ransom 07-17-2023 09:28 PM

I thought the guy retired :D

Norwood 07-17-2023 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Held for Ransom (Post 6440750)
I thought the guy retired :D

Trying too, but as they say I have to much stuff to do.

Transamric 07-26-2023 04:45 PM

Being that I whined about not getting my kit right when I needed it, I thought it appropriate to let everyone know it arrived today. But more importantly, the quality of the pieces is top notch, just what i had hoped for. Only minor quibble was the quality of the copy of the factory installation diagram. Mine looks like it got chopped in half so i don't have the whole picture. If anyone cares to, could you post a pic of that diagram?
Thanks in advance!

HWYSTR455 07-30-2023 09:14 AM

Yeah, I got a shipping notification this past week, but haven't asked the body shop if they got it yet. (But expect they did).


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Norwood 07-30-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Transamric (Post 6442584)
Being that I whined about not getting my kit right when I needed it, I thought it appropriate to let everyone know it arrived today. But more importantly, the quality of the pieces is top notch, just what i had hoped for. Only minor quibble was the quality of the copy of the factory installation diagram. Mine looks like it got chopped in half so i don't have the whole picture. If anyone cares to, could you post a pic of that diagram?
Thanks in advance!

I never had a good clear copy of the directions for the kit as the NOS kit never had them. I too would be interested in a pdf if anyone can find them. I think the copy I did have I got from Bill Oxley and he has gone missing on the board.

Transamric 07-30-2023 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwood (Post 6443576)
I never had a good clear copy of the directions for the kit as the NOS kit never had them. I too would be interested in a pdf if anyone can find them. I think the copy I did have I got from Bill Oxley and he has gone missing on the board.

I'll do more searching to see what I can find.

Formula8 08-01-2023 06:40 PM

I used Craig's kit on my car and it worked great.

HWYSTR455 08-02-2023 08:36 AM

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I literally spent 2 days of free time searching for an exploded diagram of the air dam & hardware and only found the one that is included in the kit. I tried multiple search strings and nothing. I do have a 70 assembly manual, but it's still packed up somewhere due to my move. I will look again once I unpack it, but don't expect any info, or it would have already been found/posted.

On another note, body guy did receive the kit, and he shot me a pic. Looks like the spacer are roughly 1.5", if anyone is interested. Not that in the event you need to make them you could just mock it up and figure it out, but figured I'd say it out loud.

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Norwood 09-27-2023 08:57 AM

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Found the sheet, Pontiac did a poor job on this

HWYSTR455 09-27-2023 09:04 AM

Excellent!

Well, that explains the quality of the pic included with the kit!


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