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71GP76TA 10-29-2023 06:24 PM

RAIV on Hemmings
 
RAIV '70 T/A on Hemmings auctions

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/197...lton-nd-448582

turbo69bird 10-29-2023 10:25 PM

Thanks for posting it will be interesting to watch

65madgoat 10-30-2023 01:21 AM

Cool car. $120k you think?

necdb3 10-30-2023 10:20 AM

Not trying to knock the car but would you think when the did the restoration they would put the correct fender supports in. Just a peeve of mine maybe with early 2nd gens. A RAIV is certainly worth it. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own it!

Norwood 10-30-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 65madgoat (Post 6463955)
Cool car. $120k you think?

Double that

Tellyshavilli 10-30-2023 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwood (Post 6464022)
Double that

Maybe

Formulabruce 10-30-2023 06:11 PM

The wheels are ? " no issues" is what it says.. REALLY?
Shifter issues?
Fender wrong...
For a real investor, Not a flipper.. its not as correct as it should be.
Might go for $165 K .
On the auction writers...
I dislike the more common auction writers languages about items.
Example. " The " correct" transmission sits behind the blue engine" what does " CORRECT "actually mean?
Or , " a proper 3 speed turns the drive shaft" < just stooopid >
" a quadrajet sits atop the intake" , Really ?? Thats it?
" Its said to have the correct gears" , Really, no rear code??
Looked at a 66 Vette Big Block for sale on line. NOWHERE in the ad was the transmission even mentioned, aside from a general " numbers" statement. The Truth WOULD HAVE HURT.. Said like a writer... The giant 427 breathes deep through dual exhaust as it spins the torque converter.... in its BORN WITH Power glide.
I barely could see the shifter gear selector in one pic...
So much is said to make people assume one thing, but not actually saying it. Rant off..

skunkwerks 10-31-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6464112)
The wheels are ? " no issues" is what it says.. REALLY?
Shifter issues?
Fender wrong...
For a real investor, Not a flipper.. its not as correct as it should be.
Might go for $165 K .
On the auction writers...
I dislike the more common auction writers languages about items.
Example. " The " correct" transmission sits behind the blue engine" what does " CORRECT "actually mean?
Or , " a proper 3 speed turns the drive shaft" < just stooopid >
" a quadrajet sits atop the intake" , Really ?? Thats it?
" Its said to have the correct gears" , Really, no rear code??
Looked at a 66 Vette Big Block for sale on line. NOWHERE in the ad was the transmission even mentioned, aside from a general " numbers" statement. The Truth WOULD HAVE HURT.. Said like a writer... The giant 427 breathes deep through dual exhaust as it spins the torque converter.... in its BORN WITH Power glide.
I barely could see the shifter gear selector in one pic...
So much is said to make people assume one thing, but not actually saying it. Rant off..

Agreed,
For this car you would think they would get it correct.
Thing that screams something bad happened to this car body wise is the incorrect front fenders and the rear spoiler gaps. the shape and gap of the rear QP on the passenger side next to the taillight is closed. not the correct spacing. the other side looks twisted.
Body lines and spacing tell a lot about what or how the car was put together.
Also the door the QP body lines do not line up at all.
I know these cars were not perfect when they left the factory but after seeing a couple hundred of these cars over the last 35 years you can tell the ones that were whooied together.

This is not what I would buy for that kind of money.

Tellyshavilli 10-31-2023 10:37 AM

In Hemmings back in the early 90s I passed on it then but checked it out , if anybody needs any info send me a message

Norwood 11-01-2023 08:50 PM

It’s pretty rare that its original block is still in one piece.

65madgoat 11-01-2023 09:13 PM

When the 190 watchers gonna start bidding on it?!?

65madgoat 11-06-2023 05:50 PM

Only at $55k with 3 days left... the 3 bidders and 246 watchers all waiting to the end I guess

RAIV70TA 11-06-2023 07:50 PM

I believe this is the 1st 70' RAIV built in Norwood. Regardless of prior restoration faults, it still has it's pedigree.

65madgoat 11-10-2023 04:25 PM

Asking $189k now....

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/197...ly_marketplace

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-10-2023 07:41 PM

Top bid was 82,500
Nobody really went after it.
Sporting bids

R 70 Judge 11-10-2023 08:00 PM

In all of these years this is the first RAIV auto I've seen. It's not perfect but it looks like a nice car. You don't get many opportunities to buy these

RAIV70TA 11-11-2023 08:22 AM

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Then, I'm guessing mine would be your 2nd one R 70 Judge.

71GP76TA 11-11-2023 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RAIV70TA (Post 6466392)
Then, I'm guessing mine would be your 2nd one R 70 Judge.

Any idea on how many column shift RAIV's are out there?

R 70 Judge 11-11-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RAIV70TA (Post 6466392)
Then, I'm guessing mine would be your 2nd one R 70 Judge.

With a column shift!! Very cool! :eek:

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-11-2023 05:22 PM

There was a white/blue interior auto on the column Ram4 that sold a couple of different times at the big auctions , several years ago. Was not top notch necessarily , sold for around 100k both times.

In 2006 a friend had just completed a full resto on a 70 Ram4 4spd , white/blue interior.
Showed it at 2006 POCI in South Carolina , was offered 125k
That was full monte at the time.
He turned it down and said next year it will be worth 150k , 10 years it will be double that.
He was pretty much right about it.

RAIV70TA 11-11-2023 06:10 PM

I had no idea that there was another auto column. Any magazine articles out there on the car?

Tellyshavilli 11-11-2023 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RAIV70TA (Post 6466486)
I had no idea that there was another auto column. Any magazine articles out there on the car?

I don’t recall it either. Bvz any more info ?

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-11-2023 07:25 PM

I think the last time it sold was within the past 5 years.
Mecum or Russo Steele.

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-11-2023 07:34 PM

a SmokeyBandit car brought more than the Ram4Auto Column car at same auction.
is something else I remember

65madgoat 11-11-2023 07:43 PM

I never understood the value some place on Smokey and the Bandit cars over early 1970 to 1973 Trans Ams.... at least here in California those gutless smokey cars can't be modified due to smog laws; so just don't get it.

71GP76TA 11-11-2023 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 65madgoat (Post 6466503)
I never understood the value some place on Smokey and the Bandit cars over early 1970 to 1973 Trans Ams.... at least here in California those gutless smokey cars can't be modified due to smog laws; so just don't get it.

They all want to be the Bandit. Some of theses guys are more about the image than the car. I always get a chuckle out of someone dressed up like the Bandit posing next to a Bandit T/A

I do like the black and gold SE T/A's... don't wanna deal with the Burt comments.... besides... I prefer round headlights and a curvy hood.

Transamric 11-13-2023 10:57 PM

Maybe they think they're going to win over Sally!!

65madgoat 01-01-2024 04:09 PM

Why has no one bought this? Someone said it is worth double my "$120k" estimate? Where are the buyers?

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-01-2024 11:12 PM

The highest offer is shown as 101k
Its worth more than that , even though that is a lot of money.

But I don't think I would value it at 189k as it sits for numerous subjective reasons.
Doesn't matter much because I'm not a prospective buyer

muscle_collector 01-02-2024 08:24 PM

so what is the story on this car? i cant imagine it not bringing anything. ive known some rough rough ram air 4 70 ta's bring more than that.

1967gto1 01-03-2024 12:14 PM

Somebody educate me. How can you tell that the fenders on this car are wrong?
I'm assuming that 70-73 fenders are the same. 74-77 are the same and 78-81 are the same. Thanks.

jhein 01-03-2024 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1967gto1 (Post 6476244)
Somebody educate me. How can you tell that the fenders on this car are wrong?
I'm assuming that 70-73 fenders are the same. 74-77 are the same and 78-81 are the same. Thanks.

70-72 are the same. The mount for the fender "brace" on the inner fender support started in 73.

https://i.imgur.com/2Uhg16Xl.jpg

70-72:

https://i.imgur.com/jV5sPzsl.jpg

1967gto1 01-03-2024 01:56 PM

Thanks, jhein for clearing that up. I was racking my brain trying to see any differences on the outside part of the fender.

Aluminum Chief 01-04-2024 09:52 AM

T/A
 
I have been in contact with the seller on this car unfortunately it`s not the right time of year for a road trip to ND or it would probably be in my garage by now. Got info from Matt which helped a lot, Thanks Matt. A price has been agreed to and he said he will give me 1st shot on the car.

The incorrect fenders don`t bother me that much the important thing to me is it`s a number matching car and perfect for me as I like to drive my cars.,

KC

65madgoat 01-04-2024 01:19 PM

SUPER!! Good luck. Hell of a car.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-04-2024 01:59 PM

That's about where I see it , as it sits .
Mostly a quality driver , with perhaps a show quality exterior.
Good blend of car factor/equity factor for a usable car.

When they go full blown - the equity factor overtakes the car factor.
I bet its a real fun car to drive
Hope it works out for you Chief .

Aluminum Chief 01-04-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 65madgoat (Post 6476476)
SUPER!! Good luck. Hell of a car.

Thank You

Aluminum Chief 01-04-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6476482)
That's about where I see it , as it sits .
Mostly a quality driver , with perhaps a show quality exterior.
Good blend of car factor/equity factor for a usable car.

When they go full blown - the equity factor overtakes the car factor.
I bet its a real fun car to drive
Hope it works out for you Chief .

Thank You

Norwood 01-04-2024 04:43 PM

Nice one to have in the garage for sure. Good Luck

Aluminum Chief 01-04-2024 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwood (Post 6476520)
Nice one to have in the garage for sure. Good Luck

Thank You!

Tellyshavilli 01-06-2024 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aluminum Chief (Post 6476430)
I have been in contact with the seller on this car unfortunately it`s not the right time of year for a road trip to ND or it would probably be in my garage by now. Got info from Matt which helped a lot, Thanks Matt. A price has been agreed to and he said he will give me 1st shot on the car.

The incorrect fenders don`t bother me that much the important thing to me is it`s a number matching car and perfect for me as I like to drive my cars.,

KC

It’s nice to know after doing the research and holding on to these notes for 35 to 40 years. It helps somebody out.

Aluminum Chief 10-02-2024 08:43 AM

Update Ram Air IV T/A
 
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I just thought i would update this thread, I now own the 70 Ram IV T/A and it`s a beauty.
KC

johnta1 10-02-2024 09:11 AM

Congrats!


:)

Baron Von Zeppelin 10-02-2024 12:12 PM

Way to go Chief ! Big time Congrats on that beauty.
I was asking a friend a few weeks ago if anything was known about a change of ownership on that TA yet. Thanks for the update .

Transamric 10-02-2024 01:46 PM

Congrats!! And Blue besides. What's not to like?
Sign me envious.

Aluminum Chief 10-02-2024 06:58 PM

IV
 
Thanks guys!

keith k 10-02-2024 08:49 PM

Nice pick up!

vertigto 10-02-2024 08:53 PM

I guess it doesn't suck to be you...congrats!

7t4mula 10-02-2024 08:54 PM

Wow, congratulations to you sir! What a beautiful car you now own! ��������


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