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Underhood decals
Who does the best job of reproducing the underhood decals? I heard that Mike Noun does, but his website seems to not be working. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I thought Mike Noun only did the window stickers.
Ken S. was trying to do underhood decals. |
Dataway was doing some decals for something?
(maybe not him) :confused: |
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Looks like no consensus on who is making correct decals?
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Ken S. (Verdoro 68) has a lot on his plate and is being pulled in different directions. But, he is the one trying to make the perfect decals.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=863829 |
Veduro 68 (Ken S) reproduced the '71 455 HO manual trans emission decal, they are EXCELLENT.
I compared Kens repro to an original on one of my original core supports, along with a 20+ year old repro from Osborne out of Georgia (uggh) Ken also reproduced, in the last 18 months, the '71 455 HO Automatic Emission decal. Need to order two of those. BTW, on '71 455 HO A-body's the black emission decals were originally attached to the top of the core support in one of 2 different directions. Also, on the flat portion of the top of the fan shroud (endura nose cars factory equipped after the Strike with the plastic filler panel). On the "Keep your GM car all GM" aircleaner decal, need several correct ones: -6486809 PA ('71 455 HO A-body non RA) -6486811 (?) ('71 455 HO Formula non RA) -6486686 RT ('71-72 T/A)[/QUOTE] |
I'm working on the Keep you GM car all GM decals - there's a lot of them to sort through. A lot of the time is in the education of the application and part numbers, variations, etc. I also only work from original examples and try to replicate things exactly and originals are harder to find than you'd think. If there's something you need that I don't make, let me know and I'll put it on the list!
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Ken, what "Keep your GM" decal do you need examples of?
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Let me take an inventory of the repros I have and see if we can find some originals to reference. I ordered a bunch of them from Ames for '68-'74 cars, but there's no telling how accurate they are.
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Dave from ECS reproduced the 72 HO Emissions decal. Looks perfect. He did that for NJSTEVE and myself around 15 or so years ago.
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I must have purchased a couple of the 455HO MT core support decals from @Verdoro68. 68GTO on the bay?
Another vote for 6486686 RT ('71-72 T/A) I have pictures of my original but not a close up just took it for reminder of location on mine. |
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ECS Automotive Concepts produced the RT decal at one time and may still have it, just not show it.
https://ecsauto.com/collections/gm-d...34709550203041 Member burd states he lent his PL decal (or PF, W72, not sure which) to Jim Osborn Reproductions and had them reproduce it correctly (I kind of doubt it, but who knows). https://www.npdlink.com/product/air-...ro/216680/8213 https://www.npdlink.com/product/air-...m-repro/216703 |
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1978 W-72 4-speed decal.
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Dave at ECS did the air cleaner and emission decals for my 71 TA. I sent him my originals and he was able to reproduce them perfectly.
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Been working on the W72 decal. The layout is fairly simple compared to an emissions decal, and I could output these cleanly as digital files, but I've been trying to capture the flaws in the in the original's print quality. Things like the AC logo being off center and the "fuzz" around the lettering.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1734752491 https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1734752027 Compared with the existing repro, which is actually not as far off as others that I've seen. https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1734752327 |
Because you're not doing it the way I think it was done.
I think it was a three stage silkscreen process. Blue framework, red framework and changing artwork (filter number, pick code and part number). |
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A friend made me the decals for the carb, coil cap, booster, power steer pump, master, and the ac solenoid
No one has the one on their carb anymore |
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A two color silkscreen would have also been a really labor intensive and expensive way to create hundreds of thousands of stickers. You'd be able to feel a difference in the texture of the print from the background. The color application would be more even as well as opposed to the uneven and splotchy quality on these. For example, take a look at a seriograph print or some t-shirts which are both silkscreened and show very even color. I think they were just printed as cheaply and quickly as possible, like most GM underhood decals. For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the air cleaner stencils weren't silkscreened either. I've been told they were originally done via a process called pad printing which explains why the quality is so variable. Silkscreen happens to be is the best way I can find to replicate that at home. https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1735013714 |
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You are probably right, they probably used some sort of offset printing. But, I don't know how that process actually works. I just know on the earlier ones, you can see dots which I thought was because of silkscreening. https://rtruscio.com/color/lithprnt.htm |
Kind of like the stamps grocery stores used to use to stamp prices on cans and stuff.
Rubber pad with design picks up the ink then flips over and stamps the item. Except rolls around probably on cylinder. :) |
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