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jeffputts 02-12-2026 02:50 PM

70 OO in Michigan here
 
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HI All,

wanted to introduce myself and my new to be 70 Judge! I just purchased this car at Mecum in Kissimmee a few weeks back. She was built in Pontiac and sold new in Holland according to the PHS docs. I know she's not concourse but i am looking to enjoy it and drive her all summer. This car came out of a museum where she has slept since 2007. Looks like I may have some fun ahead, first things first with changing fluids.

Always open to suggestions on what products to use as well. I'm not new to old Pontiacs (always had trans ams) but this is my first GTO.

Anywho hope to connect with some other folks from SE Michigan as well.

Jeff

Keith Seymore 02-12-2026 03:38 PM

Welcome from just east of Lansing.

What museum did the car come out of?

K

Shiny 02-12-2026 03:40 PM

Congrats!

What a strikingly beautiful icon you get to enjoy!

indymanjoe 02-12-2026 03:48 PM

Gorgeous car! welcome from Milford MI maybe you can meet up at the Pontiac Dustoff this summer. It's at the Golling dealership in oxford June 13th this year. quite a few MI members meet here each year.

jeffputts 02-12-2026 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6603670)
Welcome from just east of Lansing.

What museum did the car come out of?

K

It came out of the Day Family Classic Car Museum in Corona, CA. funny enough there was a photo of it in their google reviews :-)

jeffputts 02-12-2026 05:21 PM

that sounds great, ill have to keep an eye out! most of my weekends are spent at the lake since the summer is so short so I am looking to do more weeknight cruise ins and such if its between memorial and Labor days :-)

camerjeff 02-12-2026 06:11 PM

Congrat's From Belleville MI, Hope to see it at the Dust off!

GtoFM 02-12-2026 09:18 PM

Welcome from NW Ohio. That's a very nice ride that followed you home from Kissimmee! I was at Mecum Kissimmee on Thursday and a red '70 RA IV Judge vert (1 of 6) went across the block but didn't make reserve!

7t4mula 02-12-2026 11:01 PM

Congrats Jeff! Nice ride you landed there!
Welcome to the class of 1970 as well! :)

jeffputts 02-13-2026 12:26 PM

thanks for the warm welcome everyone! Looking forward to meeting those who are localish this spring.

vertigto 02-13-2026 02:37 PM

Very nice 70 Judge...welcome!

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-23-2026 01:44 AM

Can you post a copy of the PHS to Holland ?
Never seen an export invoice that indicated it's destination.
Would be cool to see it

Feel free to cover/blurr any key codes or partial VIN if it's above comfort level .
Car looks great ! Congratulations

burd 02-23-2026 10:26 AM

I do a cars and coffee one a year at my place, you gotta roll in. (Woodward & Sq Lake)

Keith Seymore 02-23-2026 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6605040)
Can you post a copy of the PHS to Holland ?
Never seen an export invoice that indicated it's destination.
Would be cool to see it

Feel free to cover/blurr any key codes or partial VIN if it's above comfort level .
Car looks great ! Congratulations

Was that Holland Amsterdam or Holland Michigan?

I just assumed Michigan.

K

thepontiacman 02-23-2026 01:37 PM

Does your trim tag have 60 or 06 as the paint code?
Build date?

Nice looking Judge

johnta1 02-23-2026 01:57 PM

Quote:

Was that Holland Amsterdam or Holland Michigan?

Did they have a Pontiac dealer there?
(I don't have a listing for one)


A PHS and cowl tag pic would be nice.


:)

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-23-2026 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 6605086)
Was that Holland Amsterdam or Holland Michigan?

I just assumed Michigan.

K

I was even thinking a dealer named Holland Pontiac ,,,, anywhere USA

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-23-2026 04:28 PM

John has 2 dealers named Holland listed.
Both in Burlington Ontario Canada

PHS invoice wouldn't name an export dealer.
GM of Canada documents would / could name a Canadian dealer .

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-23-2026 06:17 PM

Here it is at Mecum .
Very very nice quality car .
https://www.mecum.com/lots/1165971/1...iac-gto-judge/

Not much info given or any documents shown.

12bolt axle might be a clerical error.
Red lugnuts and body color hood scoops were small mis-cues.
Think I like body color scoops better anyway.
Red center caps are likely correct going by the EUN range.

jeffputts 02-24-2026 05:19 PM

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Yes thats it from Mecum. was sold new at Elhart Pontiac in Holland MI. PHS doc attached. i was given a binder with the documentation

jeffputts 02-24-2026 05:28 PM

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Cowl Tag paid code 06 06. I have to have some paint work down as the bumper, hood and fender were damaged in transit so will be putting the scoops correct to black! is there a paint code for that? also what is off with the red lugs? i thought those came in 70? sorry just learning all the nuances here

jeffputts 02-24-2026 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thepontiacman (Post 6605123)
Does your trim tag have 60 or 06 as the paint code?
Build date?

Nice looking Judge

thank you. 06 06 paint code shipped date 1-21-70 where do I find the actual build date?

jeffputts 02-24-2026 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by johnta1 (Post 6605127)
Did they have a Pontiac dealer there?
(I don't have a listing for one)


A PHS and cowl tag pic would be nice.


:)

Elhart Pontiac in Holland, MI The dealership is now owned by Ziegler and is a combined GM/Hyundai dealership.

jeffputts 02-24-2026 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by burd (Post 6605077)
I do a cars and coffee one a year at my place, you gotta roll in. (Woodward & Sq Lake)

I would love that! what is your business? I'm by Woodward in Birmingham daily

jeffputts 02-24-2026 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6605160)
Here it is at Mecum .
Very very nice quality car .
https://www.mecum.com/lots/1165971/1...iac-gto-judge/

Not much info given or any documents shown.

12bolt axle might be a clerical error.
Red lugnuts and body color hood scoops were small mis-cues.
Think I like body color scoops better anyway.
Red center caps are likely correct going by the EUN range.

the axle from what I can see is the 10 bolt. couple photos attached. LMK what you think

thepontiacman 02-24-2026 07:08 PM

01B on trim tag is Jan 70, Second week.


06 paint code for orbit orange was originally code 60.
I posted the factory document here in tech forums that shows the change.

Red lugs were 67.


Thanks for posting.

jeffputts 02-24-2026 07:38 PM

Thank you. Which lugs should I have?

thepontiacman 02-24-2026 09:45 PM

Black centered rally II lug nuts

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-25-2026 12:49 AM

Your car was completed on , or about Jan 21 , the Invoice date.

Likely the original 10bolt rear intact. Can't make out the casting number on passenger side.
12bolt was a listing error.

Somewhere around mid December'ish , the Center Caps changed from Black to Red.
Yours are correct in Red.

Some promo pics show 1967 Rally 2 wheels with Red lugnuts , but it's controversial if any were ever used on a production car . Most say no . But they have been made available for decades.
Black Lugnuts are correct .

Any good catalyzed matte / semi-gloss finish black would be good on the scoops.
Spray can paint likely gets used on a lot of them by convenience.

Initially I thought you were implying the car was exported out of the US - to Holland .

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-25-2026 01:01 AM

The EUN 056xxxx stamped above WS on the front of your block led me to think your car was built much later in the year.

That EUN reflects to a casting date in late April 1970 timeframe.
You might want to see what the actual casting dates are on the block , heads and intake.
Carburetor and Distributor part numbers are particular to Ram Air equipped cars also.

johnta1 02-25-2026 07:34 AM

And look for the partial VIN on the block.
(down lower on passenger side by timing cover)

jeffputts 02-25-2026 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6605399)
The EUN 056xxxx stamped above WS on the front of your block led me to think your car was built much later in the year.

That EUN reflects to a casting date in late April 1970 timeframe.
You might want to see what the actual casting dates are on the block , heads and intake.
Carburetor and Distributor part numbers are particular to Ram Air equipped cars also.

from what i could see it must be a replacement block as the vin does not match / maybe you can provide some insight from the photo here. i do have a leaky waterpump as well that i need to address first warm day we get

Mr Twister 02-25-2026 12:20 PM

Welcome from the west side of MI.

Baron Von Zeppelin 02-25-2026 12:35 PM

It looks to start out as 29G
That would be a 69 ( 9 ) year model WS with 2bolt main caps.
Originally installed in a car built in Framingham Mass ( G )

The casting date for the block is located near the bolt that tightens the distributor clamp.
Topside - at the very back - where block and bellhousing meet.
example B249

On the passenger side - rearward - above oil filter adapter area - there will be larger raised numerals.
Along where block and bellhousing meet.
Seven digits beginning with 9
example 9790071

56xxxxx EUN in 1969 should land around later Frebruary

69 RA GTO 02-27-2026 09:05 AM

Great Looking Judge, Congrats on your purchase

burd 02-27-2026 10:41 AM

What does the OO mean

johnta1 02-27-2026 11:13 AM

Orbit Orange


:)

burd 02-27-2026 04:15 PM

Ahh. Too many abbreviations
We can’t even type bring a trailer anymore. lol


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