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Pepper Judge 11-10-2013 12:22 PM

WIW Hurst Wheels
 
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WIW: 4 Hurst Wheels 5 on 4 3/4" from a 67 GTO? 3 Rims very good and one bent but thought to be restorable (Consider as not restorable for the valuation). Three trim rings in good shape and the fourth missing. Two center caps in fair condition with some small pits and one with scratches. 20 lug nuts included. Numbers are close but not sequential.

Photo attached but have since been cleaned up.

Sorry: should be 66-67 Tech??

shleprockracing 11-10-2013 12:27 PM

hurst wheels
 
Are these for sale, if so I'm interested, how much do you want?

RAII 4-speed 11-10-2013 12:32 PM

I am interested also ..............

Pepper Judge 11-10-2013 02:04 PM

Yes: I expect to have them for sale but am looking for some pricing to come up with something fair before listing them. Prefer here over eBay.

65blackplate 11-10-2013 02:24 PM

put me in too

Andre 11-10-2013 05:44 PM

$3000 - 3 rings are worth $800-$1000 by themselves. I have a spare ring if you want to round out your set. If the 4th wheel doesnt have spider damage it can be straightened.

Pepper Judge 11-10-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andre (Post 5060662)
$3000 - 3 rings are worth $800-$1000 by themselves. I have a spare ring if you want to round out your set. If the 4th wheel doesnt have spider damage it can be straightened.

Thanks Andre.

The 4th is bent but doesn't appear to be spider cracked.

60sstuff 11-10-2013 08:53 PM

Serial Numbers?
 
How close are the grouping of all 4 wheels serial numbers stamped into the aluminum surface just under where the center cap mounts? THX!

Pepper Judge 11-11-2013 06:33 AM

The numbers appear to be within 11 digits,

Andre 11-11-2013 09:48 AM

My advice woudl be to dismount the 2 rims from the tires, and get the 4th rim straightened and the 4th trim ring. At that point ask price should be about $3600 or better.

Gator67 11-11-2013 10:14 AM

I also recommend that you avoid the temptation of polishing the spoke faces prior to selling to make them shine brighter. It's very easy to round smooth the sharp lines and details while polishing, and bringing them back to their full glory requires a tremendous amount of work (30-40 hours per wheel of hand sanding). In my opinion, these wheels are always worth significantly more "unrestored" unless someone has taken the time to do it right.

Andre 11-11-2013 11:37 AM

I agree with Gator67, but I would not undertake polishing these via hand. I've restored some of these that were so bad, the owners were practically giving them away. The biggest challenge in restoring the alumimun spoke, and there is really no way around it is if corrosion has created black pitting. The only way to get that pitting/discloration out is to hit the aluminum with cutting disks. This is the point where you might end up losiing the sharpness of the features. No way around it though. Working lengthwise on the spoke helps. After this, you do the typical finer grades until you just need a good aluminum polish to get it to a mirror shine.
Reputable Harley shops are usually well versed in this, as well as any stainless restoration shop.
Another tip on restoration shortfalls. If the chrome plating shop is overzealous on the trim rings, they won't fit into the wheel because they will be too thick. Something that has not been mentioned here is original lug nuts. I don't know what those are worth. I see that you have some of those in your picture.

Pepper Judge 11-11-2013 11:37 PM

Good advice guys... thanks.

Who do you recommend to straighten a rim Andre?

Andre 11-12-2013 09:05 AM

Not sure what part of Ontario you are in, but I would expect that in the greater Toronto area you should be able to find a shop or craftsman who can straigthen out the rim. While the Hurst wheel is a rare wheel among the likes of us, it isn't nearly as rare as some of the wheels used on various imports and sports cars.
I suspect that some other PY members might have a DIY method that they used on rally wheels or 8 lug wheels but I don't know of one.
Maybe if you posted a pic of that wheel without the tire, it might be easier to determine the best fix, or whether it's minor enough to be left as is.

Pepper Judge 11-12-2013 11:12 PM

Tried one restorer in the GTA but will check with another. Didn’t know if there was another “expert” where I could ship the rim.

May just sell them the way they are and let the new owner decide how to restore. Away for a week and will sort it out when back in town.

Andre 11-13-2013 09:05 AM

Selling them as they are is an option, but I suspect that you would reduce your potential buyers and bottom line.

Pepper Judge 12-01-2013 03:29 AM

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Three of the four rims and rings look to be in very good condition as they were shelved for about four decades. Don’t look like they need much polishing Gator but let me know what you think.

Pictures of one of the three (which look the same) and more of the damaged fourth rim and ring are below.

What do you think about repairs Andre / John?

hobi 12-01-2013 05:11 AM

HURST WHEELS
 
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Originally Posted by Pepper Judge (Post 5074965)
Three of the four rims and rings look to be in very good condition as they were shelved for about four decades. Don’t look like they need much polishing Gator but let me know what you think.

Pictures of one of the three (which look the same) and more of the damaged fourth rim and ring are below.

What do you think about repairs Andre / John?

CALL RICHARD JOHNS HES A RESTORER IN MOUNT BRIDGES ONTARIO REAL SMART GUY PURE STOCK AUTO RESTORATIONS 519-264-9595 I HAVE A SET I BOUGHT IN CARLISLE IN 1982 WITH THE HURST SPINNERS I FOUND A FITH FOR A SPARE AND IT NEEDS STRAITENING I LIVE IN PHOENIX GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR WHEELS

Andre 12-01-2013 07:53 AM

The damaged rim and trim ring are not nearly as bad as I had imagined. It doesn't look like it will be too difficult to fix. You just need to weigh the cost of repair vs replacement. Some hobbyists hype sequential serial numbers or numbers that are close to each other but I have never had someone balk at wheel sets that were made up of orphans.

I found several places on line. This one is close to you.

http://rimrepaircenter.mymobilebuild...-straightening

Pepper Judge 12-01-2013 10:44 AM

Thanks Hobi and Andre.

I have spoken with Richard Johns a few times; very knowledgeable. Good news that it looks repairable.


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