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Firedup6975 03-26-2021 03:31 PM

Trunk spatter paint
 
HELP needed.

I need to see pics of trunks painted with the Aqua/Black spatter paint for a 77 TA. Eastwood had the best match but cannot get it now. We tried the Dupli- Color version and it’s horrible!! Not even close to being correct. It comes out all tiny specs of aqua glitter, and covers poorly. So what’s everyone using? Anyone use the Delco version?

gary bennett 03-26-2021 05:43 PM

I got mine from Ames. Did both my Pontiacs.

400 4spd. 03-26-2021 06:33 PM

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This black and aqua that I sprayed a few weeks ago came from The Parts Place. You can't duplicate this look with a spray can product.

Firedup6975 03-26-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 400 4spd. (Post 6237040)
This black and aqua that I sprayed a few weeks ago came from The Parts Place. You can't duplicate this look with a spray can product.


Was this from the quart can that’s got a blue label?

Firedup6975 03-26-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 400 4spd. (Post 6237040)
This black and aqua that I sprayed a few weeks ago came from The Parts Place. You can't duplicate this look with a spray can product.



I Did with the Eastwood aerosol can when we did my 69. But no one has he Eastwood paint now. I think it’s discontinued.

Firedup6975 03-26-2021 08:36 PM

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This one? And what gun and tip you using?

ZeGermanHam 03-27-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Firedup6975 (Post 6237073)
This one? And what gun and tip you using?

This is what has been recommended to me and what I plan to use on my car based on photos I've seen from others who've used it.

Here is the link: https://www.thepartsplaceinc.com/pro...ne-quart/40036

Firedup6975 03-27-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeGermanHam (Post 6237188)
This is what has been recommended to me and what I plan to use on my car based on photos I've seen from others who've used it.

Here is the link: https://www.thepartsplaceinc.com/pro...ne-quart/40036



Thanks! Need the gun and which tip is used for this paint

Mickey_London 03-27-2021 05:04 PM

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I welded in a new trunk floor a couple of months ago, and today finally got round to painting it.
I used two tins of this
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1616878702

And the result was this
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1616878938
Got to leave it to dry, then clear coat it, as it is water based

Mick

Firedup6975 03-27-2021 05:23 PM

Was just at the Eastwood store today. They’ve been out of the spatter paint Aqua/black for a year. Just sold out of the one you’re showing. And Manager told us it’s dis continued, and they’re working on a replacement company to get product from but can’t say when that will happen. My car takes the Aqua/Black spatter.

vertigto 03-27-2021 07:42 PM

As I mentioned in your other thread...here are the instructions from the Parts Place for their splatter paint...or the link is below.

Spatter Paint Instructions

Choosing the right type of spray equipment:

Use a Pressure System: Spatter Paint must not be used with an airless system. Apply By Either: A Pressure Feed
Conventional Spray Gun or a Pressure Feed HVLP Spray Gun. Fluid tip/needle must be a minimum of .080-.090 inch
or 2.0 - 2.4 mm. Any smaller size will break up the fleck size.
A pressure spray system is required to insure the proper
atomization of the product. This insures continuous film integrity which in turn provides maximum adhesion and other
high performance properties.

Preparing the Surface

1. Before applying Spatter Paint, clean all surfaces with water and an abrasive body shop cleaner (such as SEM
soap, 3M Prep & Blend, Presta Substrata, or similar products) using a maroon scuff pad.
2. Sand with 180 grit paper using pressure. Do not leave any glossy areas.
3. Eliminate rust by using a rust remover recommended for use with waterborne primers.
4. Mask off the surface.
5. Treat bare metal with an etching primer that is recommended for use with waterborne primers.

Primer Coatings

1. Select the proper waterborne primer/sealer base color for the Spatter Paint finish color.
2. Apply 1-2 wet coats allowing 10-15 minutes dry time between coats. Dry film should be .75 – 1.0 mil.
3. Allow 30-60 minutes dry time before top coating.
4. Clean gun with soap and water while still wet. Follow cleaning by rinsing with solvent or gun cleaner.

Spatter Paint Color Coat

The durability and restoration properties of The Parts Place Spatter Paint system, is based on a 100% full coverage
coat application. Our spatter paint has the ability, and was designed, to deliver a100% full coat film, rather than a
spatter effect commonly associated with other multi-color and textured coatings. If the substrate or primer coating is
visible, coverage is inadequate. Only full coat coverage insures that you receive all the qualities that are expected of
The Spatter Paint.

Conventional & HVLP Pressure Fed Spray Guns

Background/Sheer Coat

1. Spray Gun: 12 inches from surface with fluid needle valve nearly in the closed position. Conventional Gun Air
Pressure: 50-60 psi. HVLP Gun Air Pressure: 40-50 psi. Pot/Fluid Pressure: 10 psi. Apply a medium wet coat. Do not
build up product in the corners. No flash time required between coats.
2. Pattern Coat. Total film thickness not to exceed 8 mils wet film thickness. Spray Gun: 24-36 inches from the
surface with fluid needle valve opened one turn from step #1 above. Conventional/HVLP Gun Air Pressure: 20-30 psi.
Pot/Fluid Pressure: 10 psi.
3. Clean up: First flush gun with water while Spatter Paint is still wet. Then flush with solvent or gun cleaner. DO NOT
allow materials to dry in gun. DO NOT allow materials to dry in gun. Lowering air feed pressure increases fleck size
and texture which would produce cleaner colors. Too heavy a film will slow dry time and may cause adhesion
problems. Air Dry System: Tack-free in 2 hours at about 70° F at 50% relative humidity. Full cure occurs 5-7 days
depending on temperature and humidity. Allow to dry overnight prior to clear coat application. Force Dry System:
Force dried at 140° F in 30-60 minutes. Allow 30 minutes flash time if using forced air or baking. Can be clear coated
after cooling. DO NOT allow moisture of any kind on the surface for 24 hours.

Optional Clear Coating

Greatly increases water, chemical and abrasion resistance without sacrificing adhesion or impact resistance.
Temperature and Humidity

For Primer-Sealer/Base Color the ideal condition to spray the product is at 70° F and 50% relative humidity. This will
allow for maximum adhesion to the surface. Since the product contains water, force drying at 120° F for 15 minutes is
highly recommended when relative humidity is above 75%.

DO NOT allow materials to dry in gun.
Use the same thinners and gun cleaners as you would with any other automotive paint products.

Here in the link to the instructions.

https://www.thepartsplaceinc.com/dat...structions.pdf

400 4spd. 03-27-2021 08:02 PM

MaryAnn, PM me if you would like me to send the equipment needed to spray this. I have 3-4 guns.

Firedup6975 03-27-2021 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 400 4spd. (Post 6237316)
MaryAnn, PM me if you would like me to send the equipment needed to spray this. I have 3-4 guns.



Mike has guns we do a lot of painting frames, wheels, vehicles etc, but never shot spatter paint so not familiar what tips are used.

Thank you soooo much!! I came across a guy in a Firebird/Trans AM group that shot a video of the paint he used, which is very close to factory it’s a Black/Aqua spatter paint by GM and in-line tube sells it. So it’s ordered. :) thank you! Same paint Parts Place has in the quart can, but in an aerosol can. I saw his trunk looked fantastic!

Firedup6975 03-27-2021 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 400 4spd. (Post 6237040)
This black and aqua that I sprayed a few weeks ago came from The Parts Place. You can't duplicate this look with a spray can product.


Have you ever seen my 69’s trunk? We used the Black/Aqua spray can from Eastwood 20 years ago and this car took a concourse win and first at Pontiac Nationals with a trunk we sprayed from a can. Just saying. ;):D even Don Keefe liked it, it’s on the cover of the April 2020 Poncho Perfection Magazine.

400 4spd. 03-28-2021 12:02 AM

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My point was that the factory looking large particles won't pass through a spray can nozzle. I was going to send you a gun like this that I use, plus a container to shoot it out of. It sounds like you have it figured out though.

Firedup6975 03-28-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by vertigto (Post 6237312)
As I mentioned in your other thread...here are the instructions from the Parts Place for their splatter paint...or the link is below.

Spatter Paint Instructions

Choosing the right type of spray equipment:

Use a Pressure System: Spatter Paint must not be used with an airless system. Apply By Either: A Pressure Feed
Conventional Spray Gun or a Pressure Feed HVLP Spray Gun. Fluid tip/needle must be a minimum of .080-.090 inch
or 2.0 - 2.4 mm. Any smaller size will break up the fleck size.
A pressure spray system is required to insure the proper
atomization of the product. This insures continuous film integrity which in turn provides maximum adhesion and other
high performance properties.

Preparing the Surface

1. Before applying Spatter Paint, clean all surfaces with water and an abrasive body shop cleaner (such as SEM
soap, 3M Prep & Blend, Presta Substrata, or similar products) using a maroon scuff pad.
2. Sand with 180 grit paper using pressure. Do not leave any glossy areas.
3. Eliminate rust by using a rust remover recommended for use with waterborne primers.
4. Mask off the surface.
5. Treat bare metal with an etching primer that is recommended for use with waterborne primers.

Primer Coatings

1. Select the proper waterborne primer/sealer base color for the Spatter Paint finish color.
2. Apply 1-2 wet coats allowing 10-15 minutes dry time between coats. Dry film should be .75 – 1.0 mil.
3. Allow 30-60 minutes dry time before top coating.
4. Clean gun with soap and water while still wet. Follow cleaning by rinsing with solvent or gun cleaner.

Spatter Paint Color Coat

The durability and restoration properties of The Parts Place Spatter Paint system, is based on a 100% full coverage
coat application. Our spatter paint has the ability, and was designed, to deliver a100% full coat film, rather than a
spatter effect commonly associated with other multi-color and textured coatings. If the substrate or primer coating is
visible, coverage is inadequate. Only full coat coverage insures that you receive all the qualities that are expected of
The Spatter Paint.

Conventional & HVLP Pressure Fed Spray Guns

Background/Sheer Coat

1. Spray Gun: 12 inches from surface with fluid needle valve nearly in the closed position. Conventional Gun Air
Pressure: 50-60 psi. HVLP Gun Air Pressure: 40-50 psi. Pot/Fluid Pressure: 10 psi. Apply a medium wet coat. Do not
build up product in the corners. No flash time required between coats.
2. Pattern Coat. Total film thickness not to exceed 8 mils wet film thickness. Spray Gun: 24-36 inches from the
surface with fluid needle valve opened one turn from step #1 above. Conventional/HVLP Gun Air Pressure: 20-30 psi.
Pot/Fluid Pressure: 10 psi.
3. Clean up: First flush gun with water while Spatter Paint is still wet. Then flush with solvent or gun cleaner. DO NOT
allow materials to dry in gun. DO NOT allow materials to dry in gun. Lowering air feed pressure increases fleck size
and texture which would produce cleaner colors. Too heavy a film will slow dry time and may cause adhesion
problems. Air Dry System: Tack-free in 2 hours at about 70° F at 50% relative humidity. Full cure occurs 5-7 days
depending on temperature and humidity. Allow to dry overnight prior to clear coat application. Force Dry System:
Force dried at 140° F in 30-60 minutes. Allow 30 minutes flash time if using forced air or baking. Can be clear coated
after cooling. DO NOT allow moisture of any kind on the surface for 24 hours.

Optional Clear Coating

Greatly increases water, chemical and abrasion resistance without sacrificing adhesion or impact resistance.
Temperature and Humidity

For Primer-Sealer/Base Color the ideal condition to spray the product is at 70° F and 50% relative humidity. This will
allow for maximum adhesion to the surface. Since the product contains water, force drying at 120° F for 15 minutes is
highly recommended when relative humidity is above 75%.

DO NOT allow materials to dry in gun.
Use the same thinners and gun cleaners as you would with any other automotive paint products.

Here in the link to the instructions.

https://www.thepartsplaceinc.com/dat...structions.pdf


Thank you very good info here.

Firedup6975 03-28-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 400 4spd. (Post 6237368)
My point was that the factory looking large particles won't pass through a spray can nozzle. I was going to send you a gun like this that I use, plus a container to shoot it out of. It sounds like you have it figured out though.

Very much appreciate the offer and the help. :) thank you!

1965gp 04-05-2021 12:11 AM

I know I tried a few spray cans and they came out just like you said- looked like glitter. I might eroding the trunk black and order the one from inline tube

Firedup6975 04-06-2021 09:02 AM

DONE!
 
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Bought paint from inline tube, and it’s exactly like it should be! :D we sprayed the color on Saturday, and the clear on Sunday.

tjs72lemans 04-06-2021 08:09 PM

Did you use that on a black or grey trunk color?


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