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61vette 02-07-2021 02:32 PM

Can a swap my non limited slip 3:23 to a limit slip posi by just changing the carrier
 
Hi everyone. I'm in the process of wanting to change out my non limited slip carrier in my 1965 GTO Convertible to a posi (limited slip) unit. My original gears are 3:23. Can I simply change out the carrier with a posi unit? do I need to change out the gear set. Would like to keep the 3:23 gears they are in great shape. Just want to change out to a posi unit. My axle housing casting number is 9779822. Everything I've been able to find out is there is I would need to change out the gear set as well and probably have to go to 3:36 ratio. If I need to do this will this unit fit in my axle housing? Any help would be appreciated.

PontiacJim1959 02-07-2021 04:09 PM

Why not do it yourself? Read the Installation Instructions down at the bottom of the page.

https://www.powertrax.com/traction-s...er-9207822805/

geeteeohguy 02-07-2021 05:43 PM

If your posi carrier is for the 2.93-3.08-3.23, you can install your gears with no issues. If you change to a 3.36-3.55-3.90-4.33, you will need the carrier for those ratios. Plenty of 3.23 Safe-T-Tracks were produced. The 3.23, IMO, is just about ideal for a street driven car, though. If I had that ratio, I would keep it.

694.1 02-07-2021 07:00 PM

We did a Dana 44 years ago & just swapped the carrier. The gear pattern was spot on! But you gotta check.

Geoff 02-08-2021 04:07 AM

If you get a posi carrier for a 3.23 gear set, then it bolts straight in.

foxgapLeMans 02-08-2021 07:33 AM

here is a project I have always wanted to do to my 71 with 3:55 gears. Summit gets about $450.00-$500.00 for the PowerTrax unit I see.

Are you guys happy with the units you installed from Powertrax? It does not look like a difficult project.

tallrandyb 02-08-2021 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 61vette (Post 6223012)
Hi everyone. I'm in the process of wanting to change out my non limited slip carrier in my 1965 GTO Convertible to a posi (limited slip) unit. My original gears are 3:23. Can I simply change out the carrier with a posi unit? do I need to change out the gear set. Would like to keep the 3:23 gears they are in great shape. Just want to change out to a posi unit. My axle housing casting number is 9779822. Everything I've been able to find out is there is I would need to change out the gear set as well and probably have to go to 3:36 ratio. If I need to do this will this unit fit in my axle housing? Any help would be appreciated.

This is the one I'm installing with a set of 3.23's:

https://www.ronsmachiningservice.net...-3-23-5420114/

Geoff 02-09-2021 02:45 AM

The PowerTrax is a great unit, had one in my 66 GTO. Don't know why more are not in use. Indestructible, no clutches or cones to wear out.
They ONLY fit a non-posi centre, so great way to convert a non P to a P.

Kenth 02-09-2021 05:17 AM

Auburn have new posi units for 3.23:1 gears in P 10-bolt rear-ends.
Easy swap, remember to measure the backlash on three spots around the driven gear before you pull the non-posi and use this backlash with the new posi.

gtopont 02-09-2021 02:01 PM

do you have to pull the axles out to install this ?

vertigto 02-09-2021 04:24 PM

Just a FYI that Jegs has the 3.23 Auburn HP Differential (5420114) for $389.99.

I stepped up to Auburn's Pro Series version (542099) for $487.99 on sale awhile back.

Bill Hanlon 02-09-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gtopont (Post 6223611)
do you have to pull the axles out to install this ?

Yes

61vette 02-09-2021 07:41 PM

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate everyone's feedback. Good stuff! I'm going to go with the Auburn unit and keep my 3:36 ring and pinion gears. Can't wait to burn some rubber come spring. :3gears:

aceaceca 02-09-2021 11:06 PM

Quick story: Put a 3.70 gear into our 65 GTO with 3.23 posi rear end. Used an aluminum spacer on the ring gear to space it over.
Used grade 8 bolts from a hardware store. Younger brother sheared off all the bolds and exploded the rear end. It sat under a tree
and was still there when the house was sold. Replaced it with a junk yard rear end. This was many years ago. End of story.

Somehow I built up another 3.23 posi for the car as pictured in avatar. Now original again.

tallrandyb 02-11-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 61vette (Post 6223698)
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate everyone's feedback. Good stuff! I'm going to go with the Auburn unit and keep my 3:36 ring and pinion gears. Can't wait to burn some rubber come spring. :3gears:

Make sure and get the 5420113 Auburn for 3.36 and above, not the 5420114 unit we are discussing for 3.23 and below.

Kenth 02-11-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 61vette (Post 6223698)
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate everyone's feedback. Good stuff! I'm going to go with the Auburn unit and keep my 3:36 ring and pinion gears. Can't wait to burn some rubber come spring. :3gears:

You said your original gears was 3.23:1 in your first posting.
Just make sure youŽll order the right posi.

61vette 02-11-2021 08:44 PM

Sorry everyone, I missed type my last post. My gear ratio is 3:23. So, I'm going to purchase the Auburn unit p/n 5420114. Thank you all again for the feedback.

Dick Boneske 02-12-2021 05:42 PM

Let us know how it works out. Our two '64's have 3.23 open rear ends. Would really like limited slip.

tallrandyb 08-01-2021 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Boneske (Post 6224587)
Let us know how it works out. Our two '64's have 3.23 open rear ends. Would really like limited slip.

Dick,

I bought a set of used 3.23 gears from 62 BV (from a 64 I believe) and installed them with the Auburn posi carrier from Ron's Machining Service (https://www.ronsmachiningservice.net/) and the Yukon gear and axle overhaul/install kit from Summit (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/YGA-14085).

No noise, works great, full posi. I removed a 3.55 geared open carrier when replacing. Changed the trans speedo gear and I am enjoying it.

gtopont 08-02-2021 07:44 AM

323 open rear to posi
 
DO YOU HAVE TO PULL THE AXELS ?


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