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unruhjonny 07-27-2022 12:24 PM

1970 emissions/tune up label
 
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Yesterday I went down a rabbit trail;
I came across an NOS 1970 L65 (400-2bbl) emission label online.

It caused me to look at the one I bought for my car, and what's left of my car's original that I carefully removed in 1995 or 1996 (there's not a whole lot left of it, and most of the ink is gone).

My original label is a white decal that had black printing on it.
Unless I am mistaken the reproductions have always been black vinyl(?) with white printing.

I still have my repop label in the envelope I received it in from year one - want a chuckle?
The envelope was sealed (presumably because that was when they fulfilled my order) on either March 4th, or April 3rd 1996 - talk about delayed gratification (because I never applied that "finishing touch").

Have these labels changed since the mid-1990's?
or are they still manufactured the same way, at the same company?
The back of this label (faintly) reads Jim Osborne.

How often do NOS labels show up?

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1658939082

Formulabruce 07-27-2022 01:20 PM

Factory L-65 Label for a California car had black background. This is from Norwood built cars " exported" to Ca. The white you see is the actual vinyl as these were probably reverse printed.

Ramairnacho 07-27-2022 01:44 PM

Label
 
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Did you see this one?

unruhjonny 07-27-2022 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramairnacho (Post 6360017)
Did you see this one?

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...0&d=1658943868

that is the EXACT one I saw.

Formulabruce 07-27-2022 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramairnacho (Post 6360017)
Did you see this one?

That have a year on it? The L65 was made in many years.
Also there was the Big car 2bbl 400 wich has 428 ft lbs of torque and 10:1 in 1970, yeah 2bbl...

unruhjonny 07-27-2022 07:41 PM

that listing is for a "NOS 400-2bbl" tune up label;
The part number would suggest it's for 1970.

The repop label (assuming it's the correct number) for my car is part number 482340 - this one's part number precedes mine by one digit.

Formulabruce 07-28-2022 03:37 AM

The "other" 1970 2bbl 400 was a 290 HP ( 428 torq 10:1 engine)
This was a YD code engine, had different heads than the 11's that were on the L65.
There could be stickers out there for this one, but I would think it would mention the fuel requirement.
just some added thoughts.

unruhjonny 07-28-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6360205)
The "other" 1970 2bbl 400 was a 290 HP ( 428 torq 10:1 engine)
This was a YD code engine, had different heads than the 11's that were on the L65.


Ok, you piqued my interest, and made me look it up.
I think this label might be for that engine;
The common 400-2bbl was an automatic-only engine (just confirmed in the "Pontiac Bible");
YB (255hp) = G-body / TH / #11 heads
XX (255hp) = F&A-body / TH / #11 heads

WE (290hp) = full sized and GP / ST / #16 heads
YD (290hp) = full sized and GP / HT / #16 heads

Notice that this tag shows ST!??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6360205)
There could be stickers out there for this one, but I would think it would mention the fuel requirement.
just some added thoughts.

Is it possible(?) that since most engines at that time had higher octane fuel requirements, that this might serve to explain why the 1970 "8.8:1 compression" engines had a silver/chrome "REGULAR FUEL" sticker on the valve cover;
Those "low" compression engines were the oddities which needed to be pointed out for that year - not the reverse.

Formulabruce 07-28-2022 10:20 PM

Think you'll find the L65 ( xx) was a 265 hp / 397 TQ engine. The 1970 350 was the 255 hp, 375? TQ engine.
That "WE" engine might be a rare one with a stick shift in a GP.

unruhjonny 07-29-2022 12:42 AM

hmm, either I typoed, or copied a mistake from the Pontiac bible;
I don't have it handy to check which one it was at this time.

Thanks for the correction.

unruhjonny 07-29-2022 09:41 AM

totally a typo on my part.


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