PY Online Forums - Bringing the Pontiac Hobby Together

PY Online Forums - Bringing the Pontiac Hobby Together (https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/index.php)
-   69-77 Grand Prix TECH (https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=435)
-   -   1969 GP standard rear axle codes - Extra axle I have is stamped 2F. (https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=851004)

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 04:58 PM

1969 GP standard rear axle codes - Extra axle I have is stamped 2F.
 
1969 Shop manual only lists 2D, ZF and ZE as the available regular duty open rear axle codes. Could what appears to be a 2F instead be intended to be a ZF? :confused:

It is very clearly a "2" and not a "Z"

Maybe someone at the factory grabbed the wrong stamp for some? Any thoughts???

Thanks!

Kevin.

428ho4spd 06-06-2021 05:24 PM

1 Attachment(s)
The A-Body chart shows letter/letter codes. GP chart shows number/letter codes. Here's the GP chart I have.

Grant

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 05:46 PM

Thanks Grant, but as I noted, I have the 1969 Pontiac shop manual (original, not a reprint, and I have had it for over 40 years), so I had already had access to that information. What I was looking for is whether anyone has any experience with the axle codes being mis-marked. Same info as the page in my manual. Here is the picture of the axle code:



https://www.pontiacregistry.com/memb...hp?pic_id=1486

It is pretty clearly a 2F.:confused::confused:

428ho4spd 06-06-2021 05:54 PM

???
 
Why do you think it's mis-stamped? 2F is a 3.23 reg duty code for GP shown in my chart.

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 06:14 PM

Well because I guess my original Pontiac Service Manual has a misprint. It is very clearly a "Z" on my copy.
:jaw:

https://www.pontiacregistry.com/memb...hp?pic_id=1487


(it's kind of hard to scan such a large manual)
They must have corrected it before they printed the 1972 parts book.
:thumbup: :thanx:

428ho4spd 06-06-2021 06:23 PM

Ah, no wonder! :) Those "Z" codes are not correct for the GP chart. My chart is from Pontiac MPC.

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 06:31 PM

My manual has a May 1971 print date. It's just wrong. :drunk: Your parts catalog clearly has the correct information. :thumbup:

428ho4spd 06-06-2021 06:37 PM

There's no lack of misprints in these old books. :beerchug:

padgett 06-06-2021 06:43 PM

We is bin slipstreamed. Note the date of the chart that shows the 2F: 1972. My October 68 Manual says ZF. My question: is that 2F a 10 bolt or a 12 bolt ? YWTK

ps this is a good example of why you cannot always trust factory manuals. The date is important. Have seen the same thing in brochures particularly in 1973 as Many Things Changed.

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 06:50 PM

The 2F rear being discussed is a standard BOP (A body style) 10 bolt... Proper for the '69 GP body from which it was removed. I have a brand "x" (chevy) 12 bolt on that frame now, and I have a guy interested in the 2F rear axle assembly.

428ho4spd 06-06-2021 06:50 PM

I just looked at my '69 Service Manual chart and it shows those "Z" codes as well.
All 10 bolt in '69.

Absolutely!

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 428ho4spd (Post 6255716)
There's no lack of misprints in these old books. :beerchug:


So much for my belief that the shop manuals are essentially automotive scripture. :old:

lol.. :pound:

I need a beer. :beerchug: :drunk: :beerchug:

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 07:00 PM

Thanks for the help!!!!

padgett 06-06-2021 07:03 PM

OK now on to the '73 SD Grand Prixs.

BTW my 400/4spd/AC 70 Grand Prix had an open 12 bolt. Talk about tire smoke. Have a 3.55 4 pinion in the Judge. Could use an OD but my BW 5 speed is only good for about 300 lb-ft.

428ho4spd 06-06-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969GPSJ (Post 6255729)
Thanks for the help!!!!

You're welcome!

1969GPSJ 06-06-2021 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padgett (Post 6255731)
OK now on to the '73 SD Grand Prixs.

BTW my 400/4spd/AC 70 Grand Prix had an open 12 bolt. Talk about tire smoke. Have a 3.55 4 pinion in the Judge. Could use an OD but my BW 5 speed is only good for about 300 lb-ft.

My original 4 speed car had a 3:23 4 pinion posi, but the brake cones were completely worn out, it too was pretty good a smoking a single tire.. :rolleyes: My plan for this car includes the Tremec TKX, and while my 12 bolt is pretty tight, I am looking at a torsen-type diff for it's ability to deal with widely varied traction environments.

Speaking about 455 SD's, in June 1980 I saw a '73 or '74 Grand Am with GM plates, the NACA scooped hood and 455 SD emblems (stickers) tooling down I-70 between Columbus Ohio, and Dayton, headed Westbound. The car they never released.

:cry:

padgett 06-06-2021 09:17 PM

I remember 7 white 73 GAs at Milford but AFAIK none were sold to the public since they were never certified (big baggies). March 15, 1973 put an end to the SD in A and G bodies.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:57 AM.