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Mr_GTO 01-27-2022 11:35 AM

Royal Bobcat GTO? Hmmmmm
 
Saw this near me the other day. I thought the only way to know if a car had a Bobcat treatment was with a receipt of the work done by the dealer?

https://www.classiccarsofsarasota.co...yal-bobcat-gto

If anyone wants me to look at it closer I can. I pass the building 2X a day.

Mr_GTO 01-27-2022 11:51 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRsYSh_xRo

1st Observations.
Nice restoration but far from correct. Wrong pedals, valve covers, rear end, sway bar, exhaust.

Singleton 01-27-2022 11:58 AM

states on the window sticker that it was sold by Sturgell Motors in Lexington Ky, so highly unlikely a Bobcat.
Heck, I guess I'll buy some Royal emblems and call mine a Bobcat, at least my 66 was sold through Royal

Keith Seymore 01-27-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_GTO (Post 6314037)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRsYSh_xRo

1st Observations.
Nice restoration but far from correct. Wrong pedals, valve covers, rear end, sway bar, exhaust.

No woodgrain on dash.

Rally wheel centers need the black pinstripe in the dome.

K

Keith Seymore 01-27-2022 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Singleton (Post 6314039)
states on the window sticker that it was sold by Sturgell Motors in Lexington Ky, so highly unlikely a Bobcat.
Heck, I guess I'll buy some Royal emblems and call mine a Bobcat, at least my 66 was sold through Royal

My dad used to say "...if Royal had sold all the cars that have stickers and license plate frames on them they would still be 'dealer prepping' em..."

K

HoovDaddy 01-27-2022 01:12 PM

Needs documentation to prove it otherwise knock the price down. Nothing in the description nails it down to having any of the Bobcat packages that were available. Original owner probably joined the club and got the decals.

I understand originality, but restoring it with a single reservoir master cylinder? Someone adapted the throttle linkage to a cable and the dash woodgrain is gone, all this for above concours value. If I was going to clone a Bobcat, I would at least have the Ram Air pan on it.

Jack P. 01-27-2022 01:17 PM

And T/A splitters and air conditioning core support. I wonder why so many pieces that normally stay with a car are gone?

hgerhardt 01-27-2022 05:02 PM

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And the painted fender bolts since they couldn't be bothered to remove the fenders before paint.
And the parts store alternator with 10SI front housing and DN rear.
And the aftermarket voltage regulator.
And the Olds "12-bolt"
And the boxed lower rear control arms with anti-sway bar
And the '67 RA/HO manifolds
And the 2-1/2" mandrel-bent exhaust with X-pipe
And the '67-up valve covers
And they didn't even know what the lower spring retainer plates were for-- they mounted them on the bottom of the spring pads where they do nothing useful.

misterp266 01-27-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hgerhardt (Post 6314149)
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And they didn't even know what the lower spring retainer plates were for-- they mounted them on the bottom of the spring pads where they do nothing useful.

Now that’s funny! But he’s pointing to the sticker, doesn’t that make it OK?

hobbygto65 01-27-2022 06:45 PM

STROKED 421, 421's weren't stroked.

hgerhardt 01-27-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hobbygto65 (Post 6314180)
STROKED 421, 421's weren't stroked.

He claims it's 500+ cu in (because, you know, Royal did that to all the cars)

bird72 01-27-2022 07:40 PM

I sense a strokin' and I ain't jokin'..............

GT182 01-27-2022 07:43 PM

As far as I know there was no X crossover in the 65 exhaust system. Or was there?

I don't believe for one second it's what he says it is. I smell fraud.

bluejudge 01-27-2022 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_GTO (Post 6314031)
Saw this near me the other day. I thought the only way to know if a car had a Bobcat treatment was with a receipt of the work done by the dealer?

https://www.classiccarsofsarasota.co...yal-bobcat-gto

If anyone wants me to look at it closer I can. I pass the building 2X a day.


Sounds like they bought this car from horsepower Warehouse. I watched their video on this car last week. I think they have to make their money on it. Not sure if it’s a legit Bobcat but I think horsepower warehouse is mainly corvettes, so they may not have the Pontiac knowledge.

Mr_GTO 01-27-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bluejudge (Post 6314221)
Sounds like they bought this car from horsepower Warehouse. I watched their video on this car last week. I think they have to make their money on it. Not sure if it’s a legit Bobcat but I think horsepower warehouse is mainly corvettes, so they may not have the Pontiac knowledge.

It's the same place. HP Warehouse is the YT channel for the restoration side of Classic Cars of Sarasota.

Mr_GTO 01-27-2022 09:04 PM

And FYI, this is probably a consigned car to the store and they get the info from the seller.

Tom Vaught 01-27-2022 09:30 PM

NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING A CAR THE WAY THAT YOU WANT IT.

Especially if you are keeping the car for your own families' enjoyment.

That being said, Keith, I got a couple of NOS Royal stickers on the fenders and a
Friend who owns a 65 Royal Car. Can I claim my car as a Royal 64 GTO convertible?????
JK

Tom V.

gtospieg 01-27-2022 10:40 PM

Tom V...I agree, there's nothing wrong with building a car the way YOU want it...but when you try to sell it as "what it's NOT"... THAT'S a problem.

Mike Davis 01-27-2022 11:17 PM

My 66 was sold new here in the Southeast in mid June 1966. The original owner ordered it to race. It was taken to Boomershine Pontiac at the end of July 1966. They installed the Royal Bobcat package on the car. Boomershine ordered the package. Even though the car was not purchased through Royal some dealers did install the packages since the kits could be mail ordered. The invoice for the work stated "No Warranty on Parts or Labor"

This car the OP posted has very few original pieces left.

bluejudge 01-27-2022 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_GTO (Post 6314224)
It's the same place. HP Warehouse is the YT channel for the restoration side of Classic Cars of Sarasota.

Thanks, I did not know that.


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