PHS, Really?
 

There must be some mistake. 65 dollars sent for a few generic pages of production numbers and press release info, incorrectly highlighted option codes and a membership application received? Only thing of value is a single piece of paper, the broadcast sheet. Not so much as a press release photo anymore? What has happened to PHS???

There is an article (page 8) in the March, 2013 Smoke Signals that may address some of your concerns. Loss of the AMA specifications are unfortunate.

Not lowering the cost of docs is unfortunate. Paid for docs on a car I've owned for half its life for little more than a letdown.

guess i will save my money

Never again.

It seems like their collection is doing well: http://phsmusclecar.com/about-phs/

Its real value is if you have a very rare car you are wanting to sell as factory r/a I, II III IV SD, HO, ect. Or if you just want know how your car was new.

Wonder how many people spend countless hours looking for a car and found a car to have it sold out from under them after PHS docs were ordered...

In case it isn't obvious, I'm a bit pissed off.

BIG LET DOWN
 

I too sent in recently and have not done so in years, Not impressed with the lack of effort needed/used to put so little together.
I don't care about pictures and all the Press fluff but at least give us better quality print/paper.
Really lost its value to me as well.

We are spoiled and this thread is evidence of that.

Imagine owning a car for 20 years only to show up at a cruise night and have somebody tell you it wasn't what you thought it was and you have no way to prove it?

That 1 sheet is worth 10 times what we pay.

The p-o-p tells me the car is a GTO and I have THE engine it was built with. So the car came with whitewall tires. Oh great, money well spent?

Am I missing something ? I have been getting PHS since its inception. The build sheet was always the part I ordered it for. Of course back in those days it was $35. Was there other important information apart from that? As an FYI, never buy a car based on the PHS provided by the owner. I have seen some excellent faked sheets with options added. Always get your own. I'm not sure how PHS could buy a car out from someone if you sent in the VIN.

think they have the phs on them?

Me too.

The codes from PHS are wrong for the Kansas City Built cars.

John V has mentioned this several times in posts. I knew this many years ago.

That being said, their is still some value with a PHS document, I suppose.
Course you can't just give the PHS document to the next owner as everyone says "order a new one,
as your copy may have been tampered with."

What a sweet deal that is for PHS.

$65.00 I guess I will keep my copy of the info I received from the "Pontiac Lady" (years ago), that had the right code info for my KC cars.

Tom Vaught

Just my 2 cents
 

I understand why you are pissed because of expecting more for your $65 but look at the positive side.....your car (whatever the model and condition) is probably worth a lot of money and will continue to appreciate, so $65 for one piece of paper which happens to belong to "ONLY YOUR CAR" is a small price to pay! Any and all documentation on a collectible automobile is paramount!

Who owns PHS? Do they post here?

Chris

That would be user name (1gmman)

The PHS docs I got do nothing for the value of the car I just got them for. What I'm pissed about is paying double for what I have in the past for half as much material. PHS will provide you with many reasons why the amount of material is dwindling, but not one reason why the price is going up.
There comes a point when a man gets tired of paying out an extra nickel here and dime there while the shaft is being pushed in a centimeter at a time without so much as a reach-around. After 20+ years, I'm tired of it.