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starlightblack 11-05-2021 09:35 PM

Solid 1970 Trans Am Project
 
Not mine, just figured someone might be looking. Looks like a great place to start. Is this a PY member's?

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/p...396615468.html

Ram4king 11-06-2021 12:03 AM

Texas deal

1oldgoat 11-07-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram4king (Post 6292901)
Texas deal

Would that be west Texas just north of Juarez?

poncho-mike 11-07-2021 11:14 AM

Are the 70s bringing that much now, missing original motor?

burd 11-07-2021 11:50 AM

Parts car.

eaglesan13 11-07-2021 12:45 PM

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The data plate indicates that it's a 1970 (picture 1). However, the rear package tray/bulkhead area does not have the correct (1970 only) rectangular cutout for the rear window defroster vent, (picture 2). Picture 3 is a reference photo showing the correct packager tray. The package tray also has a 1971 and later evap standpipe, (picture 4). 1970 did not use this style. Maybe the rear bulkhead has been replaced with a later year one, hard to tell from the pictures.

R 70 Judge 11-07-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by poncho-mike (Post 6293182)
Are the 70s bringing that much now, missing original motor?

Without knowing if it has the correct fenders and hood, I think it’s at the very upper end price range wise. It does need floors. I think 16-17K would be more fair. As someone who searched for a 70 for a long time, yes they are getting harder to come by. That being said, this is the 3rd 70 TA I’ve come across in the last 3 weeks.

R 70 Judge 11-07-2021 03:49 PM

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poncho-mike 11-07-2021 09:52 PM

So what would be reasonable for this if it had the correct motor/trans/rear and the hard to find stuff like shaker and wheels?

wovenweb 11-07-2021 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by poncho-mike (Post 6293377)
So what would be reasonable for this if it had the correct motor/trans/rear and the hard to find stuff like shaker and wheels?

Polar white or Lucerne blue? A Lucerne blue, original drivetrain car(4 spd w/ state issued VIN supposedly original rivets on factory VIN intact) with an asking price of $25k recently sold. i think $19.5 for this car is high, but Judge projects were going for $15-20k earlier this year.

R 70 Judge 11-08-2021 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by poncho-mike (Post 6293377)
So what would be reasonable for this if it had the correct motor/trans/rear and the hard to find stuff like shaker and wheels?

This one was for sale in Oklahoma City. Asking price was $28,000. It’s no longer listed so I assume it sold. Being Lucy blue probably helped


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wovenweb 11-08-2021 07:33 AM

This lucerne blue project sold recently with an asking price of $25k.

https://www.restoreamusclecar.com/ve...ntiac-trans-am

wovenweb 11-08-2021 08:45 AM

In case one wonders why these projectscare selling for so much, here is a lucerne blue '71 that sold at auction on the west coast for a $70k hammer price, was shipped to NYC metro area, appeared on Hemmings a week or two later for sale by a dealer with Inquire for the price, and the ad was gone the next morning:

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0821-48...tiac-trans-am/

And this '71 sold for a hammer price of $97k. Add in the auction buyer's fees and you are at $107k.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/CT1021-48...tiac-trans-am/

chiefbigb 11-08-2021 11:26 AM

Prices are crazy these days. I think in about ten years the market will drop out in the US . Most shops are getting at least 100 a hour for restoration work. Not hard to spend 60 to 70k restoring a car. Add the 25 you paid and you might break even. I have worked on some high end cars and the owners are normally well off. They get back about 70 percent of the investment when they sell

JSchmitz 11-08-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefbigb (Post 6293506)
Prices are crazy these days. I think in about ten years the market will drop out in the US . Most shops are getting at least 100 a hour for restoration work. Not hard to spend 60 to 70k restoring a car. Add the 25 you paid and you might break even. I have worked on some high end cars and the owners are normally well off. They get back about 70 percent of the investment when they sell

Yep. You have to want to restore something or it makes little sense. I can appreciate wanting to tackle it though.

keith k 11-09-2021 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wovenweb (Post 6293452)
This lucerne blue project sold recently with an asking price of $25k.

https://www.restoreamusclecar.com/ve...ntiac-trans-am

Interesting car. On one hand very desirable as a blue/blue deluxe, 4-speed car with matching engine and trans. But then it's got an assigned VIN number, and the underbody pictures show that at some point the back half of it was replaced with one from a different car -- presumably because of a collision.

Based on the number of cars Restore A Muscle Car has listed for sale in the past couple years, it seems they must have purchased half of the '70 Trans Am projects that have come up for sale in the last 15 years.

poncho-mike 11-09-2021 09:42 PM

Around 2006 - 2007, there was a huge debate on this very forum about where collector car prices were going. Not long after that debate, the Great Recession hit and collector car prices dropped.

The big argument at the time was that the people who loved the 60s and 70s cars were getting old and once we died out, demand and prices would plummet. So I really have to wonder what will be the price peak for the 1960s & 1970s cars.

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Originally Posted by chiefbigb (Post 6293506)
Prices are crazy these days. I think in about ten years the market will drop out in the US . Most shops are getting at least 100 a hour for restoration work. Not hard to spend 60 to 70k restoring a car. Add the 25 you paid and you might break even. I have worked on some high end cars and the owners are normally well off. They get back about 70 percent of the investment when they sell



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