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vertigto 06-21-2021 03:53 PM

Inexpensive / alternative tow vehicle suggestions...
 
I've thought about getting a truck lately, but with the ridiculous prices of new/used, I'm considering alternatives for general hauling/light duty.

I used to drag around my 19' Scarab with a S-10 pickup, but that was out of necessity. I doubt a small pickup would be able to handle a car/trailer, if I ever wanted to haul the GTO to a national event.

Thought about either going older (like an El Camino/wagon with a V8) or maybe something like a Dodge Magnum. Not sure if either would be able to handle the load or be dependable enough though.

So...any unconventional ideas that won't break the bank?

May be better to just wait out the current vehicular trends, as I am in no great hurry.

nbn 06-21-2021 04:01 PM

not very unconventional, but find a clean 95-99 suburban. Maybe an older Excursion. There are some low mileage gas units out there still and for about 1/4 of the price of a truck.

Anything on a car chassis after the 70s won't pull more than a lawnmower, I don't think.

carbking 06-21-2021 04:03 PM

Wide open range of options.

My tow vehicle for loads like you mention is a 1968 F-100. Engine 450 HP 390 CID coupled to a 4-speed truck transmission.

Installed an electric brake controller, and overload rear springs. Truck has power brakes. (Stopping is probably the most important criteria).

Jon

Formulabruce 06-21-2021 04:51 PM

There are many more 2wd good towing choices than 4x4.

Half-Inch Stud 06-21-2021 05:19 PM

Challs III hitch drive the need for a good frame, V8 and Overdrive.

I chose the 95 Lincoln, yet is underpowered when tsking on highway hill climbs.

AFTERALL, MPG while towing matters.

Gastiresandoil 06-21-2021 05:40 PM

Look at a used Uhaul box truck. They used to run in the $3-4K. If you're lucky, like I was, you'll be able to find one with a service replacement engine with low miles

max 93 06-21-2021 05:45 PM

3/4 ton vans are an option

sdbob 06-21-2021 06:11 PM

I like a long wheelbase and hd brakes. Gives a feeling of security in a 'situation'.

padgett 06-21-2021 06:22 PM

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How big and how big a car being TOAD ? I've had my '12 Jeep Grand Cherokee since new and is the best tow car I've ever had. Was bought with RWD and the Towing package which includes a class III/IV frame inserted (not mounted, inserted into the frame channels. U--Haul will rent anything it has.

With the V6 it gets 24mpg on the road and is rated for 5,000lbs. With hemi is more but I like V6s. Laredo has everything except excess bling and RWD gets 1.2 MPG more than 4WD.

the Mercedes chassis began for 2011 and the Pentastar is remarkably similar to the Mercedes V6.

Great GT car for 2 with a lot of luggage space and is only an inch longer than my Caddy CTS coupe.

Try one.

1965gp 06-21-2021 06:36 PM

My 99 suburban was a great tow vehicle- has 190k on it now. They seem to need transmissions at about 120-150k.

72projectbird 06-21-2021 07:23 PM

99-07classic GM truck.

You can find a regular cab 2500 with the 6.0 4L80E for not too much money. It'll pull anything you put behind it and then some.

Skidmark 06-21-2021 07:54 PM

I picked up a 2006 1 ton ford e 350 van w/ 5.4 gas tow capacity #6700 installed an elec brake controller. 6000k purchase price and they're everywhere since they are used as fleet service vans.

Sirrotica 06-21-2021 08:09 PM

91-2001 6.5 turbo diesel in any LT (1/2-1 ton) chevy/GMC chassis. Early ones (91-93) are mechanical injection pumps, 94-2001 are electronically controlled by an ECM.

Around 200 HP, but 430 FT/LBS of torque at 1800 RPM. I have a 93 K3500 4X4 dually, and an 95 C3500HD (15,000 GVW) box truck, both 4L80E transmissions. A good tow vehicle in my estimation, and because they're a turbo diesel, good fuel economy.

Parts are reasonable, and you don't have to be a diesel technician to keep them running. You'll have no problem towing a 7,000 lb car and trailer with one of these. Open the exhaust to 4 inch tube, and richen the pump up a bit is all you need to get some more power out of one of these trucks. Simple and cheap to modify for a little extra power. They made a lot of them, so they're not hard to find used.

The early IDI diesel, IH 7.3 engines, as well as the later Powerstroke turbo in light duty fords. Simple engines that put out decent power for dollars spent. I have an 88 IH 2 ton chassis wrecker (Ex U Haul straight truck that I shortened the chassis) with the 7.3 IDI diesel that pulls very well for a naturally aspirated diesel. I only paid $1800 for the cab and chassis from U Haul, with a fresh short block that has under 10,000 miles on it.

:2cents:

tom s 06-21-2021 08:18 PM

used trucks and SUVs are crazy money now.Tom

vertigto 06-21-2021 08:59 PM

Actually thought about a van (and do a little converting), but never an ex U-Haul. That's some ingenious thinking, if there is one with a rebuilt/replacement engine with low miles. I assume I would need at least 5000 lb. towing capacity if I wanted to tow a 70 GTO and trailer.

I'm thinking a late 90s-early 2000s anything would still be some serious scratch.

71GP76TA 06-21-2021 09:03 PM

Any mid 90's-early 2000's 3/4 ton pick-up. You should be able to score a nice clean 2WD for under $5000. 4X4's bring a premium.. Expect to pay $2000-$3000 or more for the same truck with 4 wheel drive versus a 2WD.

Here is a prime example..,

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto...340117216.html

400 4spd. 06-21-2021 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vertigto (Post 6259122)
Actually thought about a van (and do a little converting), but never an ex U-Haul. That's some ingenious thinking, if there is one with a rebuilt/replacement engine with low miles. I assume I would need at least 5000 lb. towing capacity if I wanted to tow a 70 GTO and trailer.

I'm thinking a late 90s-early 2000s anything would still be some serious scratch.


I think you would want closer to 7K at a bare minimum. You have pictures of your car on the trailer (rated 8000#) behind my Excursion (rated at 10K towing), and that is a 19' trailer weighing around 3K lbs. before my modifications (stone guard, boxes and winch). Heavier 4WD will cost you total weight capacity vs. 2WD.

Chris65LeMans 06-21-2021 10:12 PM

Every used Uhaul truck I’ve ever seen has been beat to death.

dataway 06-22-2021 12:56 AM

A ways back I built my own "mini" goose neck trailer. Not sure why you don't see them more often. The advantage being they are super stable and allow stable/safe towing of considerably more with a 1/2 ton or small pickup that would normally be the case. Since way more of the load is on the tow vehicle and centered on the rear axle stability and traction problems are all but nonexistent.

As mentioned above, good tow and trailer brakes are a must, and enough motor (or gearing) to do the towing.

Not a solution for you probably, but was for me for years.

TAKerry 06-22-2021 08:49 AM

I understand your dilemma. I am looking for a new to me work truck right now. Prices are stupid high. I only hope I can get a good price when I go to sell my current truck!

You already know what the deal is with anything pickup related. Anything that I would consider dependable enough to tow a car for hours to a meet will be hitting close to 20k. People are listing 01-06 era vehicles, Well IF you can find one with low miles that would be considered dependable you will still be paying 15k+. The guys with these think they are gold. Then theres 15k or so for a 20 yr old truck!!

I was looking for a second work truck a couple of years ago and like now used pickup prices were stupid. I ended up with a 2005 Expedition with right at 100k miles for around $4500. A comparible F150 was in the $15k range. Now with about 180k miles Exp. is still running great. It has the smaller engine and I would not tow a car with it, but you can get a later model suv for much less than the same truck.

If you want the work of swapping in a new motor buy my fx4 F150. Great truck, body is in excellent condition but with almost 300k miles the motor is a bit tired now. I can make you a great deal! LOL.


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