What do you like most about the '04?

What do you like most about the '04?

Good (better) luck on this one.

Wish I could vote for three out of four. I like everything but the cosmetics, and those are acceptably understated as far as I am concerned. And they should have called it a Pontiac Monaro GTO.

I finaly got to drive on last week, and loved it. I understand all the complaints. It sure does not look anything like my 69. and it is not a Pontiyac motor. But hello it has been 40 years since the 64, and 30 or so since the Pontiyak V8. It is one nice car, and a blast to drive.

I picked all of the above.

but a I ask Goathead a simple , but serious question - If the GTO was not called a GTO, but everything else was exactly the same what would its sales figures be ?

and would you have bought one? http://forums.performanceyears.com/g.../icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:
What do you like most about the '04? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_1436/article.html
Australian HSV GTO upgraded to 285 KW since this article, read it and weap.

I ask Goathead a simple , but serious question - If the GTO was not called a GTO, but everything else was exactly the same what would its sales figures be ?

My opinion, just an opinion, is the same as the survey say's, the cosmetics suck, so no, I would not have even taken a second look in the showroom if it had not been labeled a GTO, and I
sure would not have driven one, they are ugly... http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...n_rolleyes.gif

Not to beat a dead horse but you really think it is Ugly? I mean i understand bland but ugly? The Aztek is ugly, would you rate it the same?

IMHO trucks are ugly but the sheep buy them in droves. i can remember back in the "glory" days of the GTO. you wouldn't be caught dead driving a truck. style is subjective and cyclicle

While I feel it's unanimous that none of us like every thing about this car, I think we all like at least something about it. Instead of constant bickering about its failures and virtues we should be purchasing and enjoying this car. We should be applauding Pontiac for its efforts to even make an attempt at quenching our thirst for an affordable V8 powered rear wheel drive coupe. If we continue to bash this car Pontiac may abandon their efforts and return front-wheel-drive v6's. We need to show our support by promoting this car for what it is and hopefully motivate Pontiac into building what we really want. Of all the current Pontiacs available, this is the only one I would purchase. I would consider the GXP but it is FWD.

well said.

Very

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by svede1212:
IMHO trucks are ugly but the sheep buy them in droves. i can remember back in the "glory" days of the GTO. you wouldn't be caught dead driving a truck. style is subjective and cyclicle <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So is performance - nevermind the new dodge 500 hp v10 or the ford lightning, the last couple of years I've been seeing 6000 lb 4wd diesel trucks running 12's at the strip.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So is performance - nevermind the new dodge 500 hp v10 or the ford lightning, the last couple of years I've been seeing 6000 lb 4wd diesel trucks running 12's at the strip. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Humbler, wait until next generation Lightning. It is going to have 700hp, what then? Street truck running in the 11's ? http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...s/icon_eek.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stonebreaker:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by svede1212:
IMHO trucks are ugly but the sheep buy them in droves. i can remember back in the "glory" days of the GTO. you wouldn't be caught dead driving a truck. style is subjective and cyclicle <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So is performance - nevermind the new dodge 500 hp v10 or the ford lightning, the last couple of years I've been seeing 6000 lb 4wd diesel trucks running 12's at the strip. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...and so will you see '04 GTOs doing the same but straight line is very one dimensional. performance-wise this car does it all.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So is performance - nevermind the new dodge 500 hp v10 or the ford lightning, the last couple of years I've been seeing 6000 lb 4wd diesel trucks running 12's at the strip. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Humbler, wait until next generation Lightning. It is going to have 700hp, what then? Street truck running in the 11's ? http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...s/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not my post, but 700hp, is that official?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by humbler:

Not my post, but 700hp, is that official? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL , thats quite funny how goathead doesn't really quote who he is replying , or will highlight it in [B] without quoting who he is answering... and often gets confused, "who was i talking to ? http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_smile.gif"

oh yeah back to the subject: "700hp lightnings" :rotfl:

Go back and read the whole post real slowely, maybe you will get it... :rolleyes

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>quote from stonebreaker, for those with ADD..
http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...s/icon_eek.gifSo is performance - nevermind the new dodge 500 hp v10 or the ford lightning, the last couple of years I've been seeing 6000 lb 4wd diesel trucks running 12's at the strip <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For those who watch speedvision, this was released on a special about trucks and the high performance market. Chevy is coming out with a "lightning type" truck, but Ford, once again, is way ahead of the game. Remember when that was Pontiacs position in the market....ah, the good old days... http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_frown.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> oh yeah back to the subject: "700hp lightnings" :rotfl: <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alright, you opened your self up again. As soon as I hear back from Speed TV, I will post a new topic call "One again Down Under fails to listen"...hope you are ready... http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_smile.gif

I like the GTO emblem they put on this ugly car.
Actually, that's about all I like about it.
(cosmetically).