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PINKY8301 11-25-2002 10:36 AM

does anyone know if somebody sell a manual trans conversion kit for 1st generation firebird. something with z bar, pedals, linkage, that sort of thing. or am i best off at a swap meet or junk yard. would appreciate any info.

'ol Pinion head 11-25-2002 11:48 AM

You will have to piece it together piece by piece, unless you can find a complete used pullout. Do believe the pedals have come out in reproduction. Might ck PY online catalogue for all the small pieces.

Correct flawless factory Hurst shifter & console are where the money goes...been there [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

70gteeo 11-30-2002 06:10 PM

I did the same conversion on my 67 firebird. I bought a complete set up from a parts car.

69firebird4004spd 12-02-2002 02:43 PM

the zbar pedals rods are in yearones catalog all I had to get was the rev lockout rod

David Buza 12-11-2002 03:39 PM

I have a 67 firebird with the 326, and a 2 speed automatic I want to convert to manual anyone know the years/make/model of GM that will fit?

68CONV400 12-22-2002 07:59 PM

Classic Industries has the kit your talking about for $94.95 (Part #-C505)

Includes:
1 Upper Push Rod
1 Upper Push Rod Boot
1 Upper Push Rod Retainer Circlip
1 Lower Push Rod Retainer Circlip
1 Bellcrank Assembly
1 Frame Side Mounting Bracket
1 Block Side Ball Stud
2 Bellcrank Felts
1 Lower Pushrod Assembly
1 Clutch Extension Wire
1 Clutch Pullback Spring
1 Clutch Fork to Bellhousing Boot

1-800-854-1280


I feel kinda' bad posting this on a PY website,but I myself recently bought this kit.So far it's the cheapest and most complete set I could find.

Hope this helps,

Charlie
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68CONV400 12-22-2002 08:05 PM

I got the bellhousing and flywheel from the Tri-Power swap meet.

The shifter,pilot brg.,clutch fork, and clutch from Summit Racing.

The pedals I got from a 69 Firebird I parted.

Charlie
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68CONV400 12-22-2002 08:09 PM

Here's the link to a template you'll need to cut the hole in your floor for the shifter.


http://firstgenfirebird.org/firebird...ftHoleTemp.jpg

Charlie
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'ol Pinion head 12-23-2002 07:17 AM

Charlie,

Do your reverse lights work?

The dimensions you posted for the hole, is that stock dimensions? or with aftermarket Hurst Competition shifter & aftermarket shifter mtg plate?

68CONV400 12-23-2002 05:04 PM

I found the template on the 1968 Firebird Page in the FAQ's section.If you click on this link and scroll till about half a page down it's listed under "68 Shifter Hole Template for 4 Speed".

http://firstgenfirebird.org/firebird.../consoles.html

The shifter I've got is an aftermarket Hurst Competition Plus.When talking to Summet Racing the guy told me that the shifter will work with a factory console or without one.

The person who made the template copied it from his own factory 4 speed car.I concur with his dimensions after checking the template to my other 68 4 speed Firebird and it was the same.

I did have to print out the template and take it to a copier at work and keep resizing it until the size was correct. (IE: Used a ruler and compared it to the scale on the copied template.)

As for the reverse lights.AMES has the backup light switches in stock.

1967 Firebird Back Up Light Switch
(#FR751) $55.00

1967 Firebird Back Up Switch Bracket
(#FR753) $7.00

1967 Firebird Back Up Switch Rod
(#FR755) $3.00

1967 (Aftermarket) Firebird Back Up Light Switch Assembly
(#FR756) $28.00

1968 (Aftermarket) Firebird Back Up Light Switch
(#FR756K) $26.00

1-800-421-2637

Hope this helps.

Charlie
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'ol Pinion head 12-24-2002 09:59 AM

Charlie,
When you get to mounting the aftermarket Hurst shifter to the Muncie, it will mount higher & forward of the factory shifter & will probably require notching your floorpan cutout. Have run across a lot of stick early Birds with the notched floor pans in nearly 20 years of dragging in parts cars & junking.

The factory '68-69 Firebird Hurst shifter mounted on a special shaped steel bracket that positioned the shifter rearward & down low. It also used the longest shifter rods of any regular length (non big car) Muncie 4spd. Went through this when aquiring the correct complete shifter & mocking up both versions for comparison. Wife has 400 4speed convert (mothballed project) with console.

68CONV400 03-04-2003 06:42 PM

Update-Cluch fork from summit didn't work.Got the right one through PY.


Hope this helps,

Charlie
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68CONV400 03-04-2003 06:45 PM

Another Update-1969 pedals won't work in a 1968.Had to buy a replacement set of pedals through Classic Industries (around $65.00 or so).

Charlie
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jetallman 03-05-2003 08:23 PM

what did you do with the 69 pedals I'm looking

jerry tallman

68CONV400 03-05-2003 08:39 PM

I still got them,including the brace they bolt to and both safety start switch and brake light switch.

My e-mail: [email protected]


My parts page:
http://groups.msn.com/FirstGeneratio...tsforsale.msnw


Thanks,

Charlie
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blownb310 07-21-2005 07:48 PM

Gentlemen,

Have any of you ever used the repro clutch and brake pedals? Anyone converting from an auto to a manual setup ever tried to install them? It seems you have to drill out the holes [under the dash] for the bolt that the pedals pivot on. The repro clutch pedal doesn't mount the way the original did [with a long bolt going through both the clutch and brake pedals]. It has a much larger diameter shank that will not fit into the original hole in the bracket under the dash that the automatic pedals hang from. I did this same swap on an A body and everything mounted right up with no modification. The F bodies appear to be quite different in this regard. http://forums.performanceyears.com/g...icon_frown.gif


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