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1969T/A 01-19-2007 08:07 PM

D80 Cowl Tag Info Needed $250 Finder's Fee
 
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David Holmberg 01-19-2007 09:31 PM

From the 69 order sheets I've seen the "322 TA Package" was the only way to get the rear spoiler on a firebird in 69. It's possible that there was an early order sheet with it listed, but I doubt it. IIRC they made the first 303 TA's take the TA spoiler off and run a Camaro spoiler until they were coming off the production line.

But anythings possible.

David Holmberg 01-20-2007 10:21 PM

Couple of questions.

1. How long have you owned the car?
2. Does the car have a spoiler?
3. Is there a spoiler listed on the PHS report?

David Holmberg 01-20-2007 10:22 PM

Also, the last I heard there was a Sheriff in Ohio that would reproduce cowl tags with anything on them.

David Holmberg 01-20-2007 11:24 PM

Does the car have an early build date? I'm thinking it may have been an early car, before they decided to limit it to the TA???

I agree, it's a cool puzzle.

johnta1 01-21-2007 12:17 AM

Wasn't the rear spoiler that looked like the Camaro's put on 69 Birds? (not pedestal mount)

ramair2 01-21-2007 01:49 AM

first off is it a 400 car (accd to phs)?

does info on trim tag jive with phs?

eg..03B date on tag....is invoice date on paperwork april or late march?

do paint and trim color codes shown on trim tag match your phs?

9th TA convert? (kidding)

ramair2 01-21-2007 10:36 AM

again....

1. is it a 400 car (accd to phs)? or is it 350 or sprint 6 cylinder or?

2. 03B date on tag....what is your invoice date on PHS paperwork?

thanks...

The Boss 01-21-2007 12:45 PM

Is it possible that this trim tag was made after one for a Camaro with a rear spoiler? Did they make Camaro's at the Lordstown plant? Maybe the operator just neglected to remove the D-80 stamp from the die set?

Interesting question - didn't the green 69 convertible on I Dream of Jeanie have a spoiler on it?

Bjorn 01-21-2007 01:45 PM

intersesting , hoping to see some resolution of this ,since we didnt get to a consensus on the 'other' site before!

David Holmberg 01-21-2007 04:21 PM

Boss, yes the Green car on IDOJ did have a rear spoiler. IIRC.
If anyone has that episode on tape please let me know!

Flowjoe 01-21-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Boss
Is it possible that this trim tag was made after one for a Camaro with a rear spoiler? Did they make Camaro's at the Lordstown plant? Maybe the operator just neglected to remove the D-80 stamp from the die set?

Interesting question - didn't the green 69 convertible on I Dream of Jeanie have a spoiler on it?

They did not make Cmaros at Lordstown...Norwood Ohio and Van Nuys California only.

The Boss 01-21-2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flowjoe
They did not make Cmaros at Lordstown...Norwood Ohio and Van Nuys California only.

They didn't make any TA's either - so how would they have a D-80 die to begin with? Where were the cowl tags made and when were they mated to the bodies?

70ra455 01-21-2007 11:07 PM

This stuff is FUN and I'm looking forward to the resolution.

Cammer-6 01-21-2007 11:19 PM

I believe the cowl tag was installed at the fisher body plant.

Flowjoe 01-22-2007 03:38 AM

Trim tags are stamped at the fisher body plant...the build date on the tag referes to when fisher began build the body. The Fisher plants are at the same location as the Chevrolet plants (in norwood: two seperate buildings two sepeate divisions...one piece of property)

For what it's worth, Firebirds were built at the Norwood Ohio plant (along side camaros) starting in late spring of '69 (did they stop production at Lordstown completely??:confused: ) I still doubt that the D80 is a carry-over from a Camaro...even though trim tags are known to be messed up sometimes (being the imperect products of imperfect humans)

johnta1 01-22-2007 03:54 PM

There's a Service Bulletin for refinishing paint for certain things.
The spoiler was mentioned for the Firebird, and it didn't say Trans Am.
I would think if it was a Trans Am only option it would say for the TA.

Bjorn 01-23-2007 03:07 PM

my 69 was 'early' production (it even has the 68 vent balls),made October 68 , in Lordstown

The Boss 01-23-2007 07:29 PM

We're going to need Matt on this one....

Kurt S 02-07-2007 05:08 AM

The info you posted on 1/23 is generally correct.
The transfer of Firebirds from LOR to NOR was effective 4/14/69. The last cars out of LOS were 05A's.
JohnZ, who wrote the must-read assembly article, was responsible for gutting Lordstown to launch the Vega. Did you know the Vegas were shipped via rail standing on end?!? The batteries, fuel systems, etc were designed not to spill with the car standing up.

Back to your tag, I've never seen any extra codes on LOR tags. I have no idea what to make from it since D80 was a NOR only stamp and LOR never put spoilers on a Firebird (since they didn't build T/A's).


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