71 TA WHEELS
 

CAN ANYONE HELP WITH THE CORRECT RIM CODES .:stupid: AND CENTER CAPS FOR A APRIL BUILT / CALIFORNIA PLANT, I HAVE SEEN RED WITH BLACK PMD AND BLACK WITH A RED PMD CAPS

Rally II wheels were "KR" coded 15x7's.

Red medallions with black "PMD" callout on the center caps.

HTH!

I have a pair of January '71 dated KR's that would be available if I could find two more July '70 dated KN's...:D

THANKS FOR THE INFO. LET ME KNOW ON THE RIMS.

KN's or KR's are correct for the 71 T/A depending on build dates. I have only owned 1971's that were built before Feb. of 1971. These all had KN's. The only dates that I have seen on KN's were 7/27/70 and 7/28/70. Even the build sheets on some Van Nuys cars that I have owned showed JW but these particular cars actually had KN's.
As far as the PMD center caps go, anything after January of 1970 had red center caps.

Jeff - on his April built T/A, wouldn't Van Nuys have run out of KN's by that time?

I do have two JWs dated 6/25 that came off of a '71 TA. This was a lower vin Van Nuys car built shortly after the strike. Also, just recently I saw a JW on Ebay dated 7/15. I believe some of the earlier cars still may have had JWs until they were used up. I have also heard of a few original early '71 TAs have mixes of KNs/JWs and KRs/KNs. Probably not the norm though.

I have also seen a June built '71 Norwood car that had a KN (7/28) spare in the trunk. Still had the original tire on it. Also, I had a 12/30/70 KR that I personnally took off of a '72 TA Norwood car that had been sitting since the early 80s. That car had two more 12/30 KRs on it too but they were really really rusty (WI rusty, not TX rusty).

What does all of this mean??? I don't know! Never say Never, I guess. In some cases the date spans are much longer than expected. However, for your '71, not knowing what was originally there, I would go with the KRs, anything dated around Dec/Jan. or what ever those specific runs were dated. If you seen an earlier set for a good price, jump on them since I don't believe you can guarantee what a correct date span should be.

Lloyd, You are likely correct. That is why I stated that it depends on the build date of the car and that it can be a KN or a KR. I also said that I have not owned or documented any 71's after February of 1971. Nothing is etched in stone with Pontiac. Especially in 1971 and 1972!

I also would not disagree that early 71's were equipped with JW's. After all, the build sheets show that was to be.

Agreed!

I have a Van Nuys March built 71 that came with 7/25 Jws. Never seen that date code before but they are original to the car.

My Norwood January built date TA has KN wheels date July 27,1970 and I have 10 KN wheels all dated 7-27-70.

So they changed the stamp for the wheels from JW to KN on 7/26/70 then....?

I had a very early 71 T/A that I parted in the early 80s. The VIN was less than 100. The car was a real oddity because it had a 3.07 12-bolt posi rear. The block was cast in in May 1970. It used several carry-over parts from 1970, including a set of JW wheels. It's unlikely the car had been modified because it was only 12 yrs old when it was totalled by the lady owner.

Mike

So . . .

were the earliest KR Rally IIs dated sometime in 12/70?

I know that's been discussed at some length in the past . . . but I CRS, LOL!

I've seen KRs dated 11/10/70 and early December (12/6/70?). I seem to recall a late October '70 dated KR somewhere along the line as well, like 10/26/70. That one stuck out since that would have been during the strike, however, I suppose the wheel supplier could have still been up and running. I have heard of August dated KNs but have never seen one.

I have two KN wheels dated 11-10-70

Do you mean KR?? I ask because this contradicts your earlier post where you said you have 10 KNs all dated 7/27.

Yes KR 11-10-70 I have 6 KR wheels dates run from 11-10-70 to 3-25-72 for my 1972 WW5 GTO.