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heckinohio 09-07-2011 06:05 PM

'61-4 Bonne 4 speed shifter tower
 
Whist dinking around in the back garage today, I found an original one of these. Are there any 4spd Bonnevilles out there needing one??? Or are they being re-popped too???? PJH

Stuart 09-07-2011 06:59 PM

As far as I know only the Catalina/Ventura shift porches are reproduced, so one for a Bonneville is a rare find. I'll bet someone here has been looking for one.

Ragtop Man 09-07-2011 09:08 PM

Bonnevilles had different trans tunnels than Cats and Venturas, if your Bonne is missing one, it would really be a find!

Stuart 09-07-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragtop Man (Post 4411022)
Bonnevilles had different trans tunnels than Cats and Venturas, if your Bonne is missing one, it would really be a find!

PJ posted some photos of a Catalina/Ventura shift porch in this thread the other, and I added a photo of a Bonneville porch for comparison purposes. I figured it would be handy for future reference to have them both in the same thread. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=675881

jww 09-07-2011 10:15 PM

I believe the Bonneville shifter porches are being repopped in fiberglass by a gentleman in Wisconsin.......re: www.pontiacparadise.com. Maybe others are making this part too.

JWW

Stuart 09-07-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jww (Post 4411112)
I believe the Bonneville shifter porches are being repopped in fiberglass by a gentleman in Wisconsin.......re: www.pontiacparadise.com. Maybe others are making this part too.

JWW

Les is in Minnesota...he has a shift porch listed on his website, in the photo it appears to be the Catalina/Ventura type. He may have the Bonneville as well, but it's not specifically mentioned.

heckinohio 09-08-2011 05:59 PM

Just like the one mentioned in the pictures below.......not much rusty either!!! This one has yellow junk yard paint on it stating '62 Bon. I probably marked it those many years ago!!!! It has some extra screw holes in it, may have been tried in a different application. PJH

64catdroptop 09-09-2011 01:51 AM

I guess I'm a bit confused. I looked at the picture that Stuart posted and compared to what PJ posted. Agreed, that the one the PJ posted is the same as in my '64 Cat, but the difference I'm seeing from the picture that Stuart posted doesn't have much to do with the trans tunnel configuration (?)... I guess I'm looking at the "hump" part on Stuart's pic. Is there a difference between bench and console cars or is there that much difference in the contour between the Bonniville and Cat trans tunnel?

-r-

Stuart 09-09-2011 09:17 AM

The difference is because of the size and shape of the transmission tunnel in the Bonneville. Here's a photo of a shift porch for a Grand Prix with bucket seats, note that it's pretty similar to the Catalina / Ventura porch pictured in the other thread except for the square hole.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...0&d=1173318409

P.J.'s Catalina / Ventura bench seat shift porch:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1315359408

My Bonneville bench seat shift porch:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...6&d=1168794743

Unfortunately I don't have a photo of the bucket seat shift porch for a Bonneville, if anyone has one it would be good to add it to this thread so we have pictures of all four styles in the same location for future reference.

heckinohio 09-09-2011 09:22 AM

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Aha...........I have one of these also. I have it marked '64 GP as I remember. I Junked several '64 2+2 & GP cars many years ago. PJH

coreybrenner 09-09-2011 12:48 PM

I'm surely in favor of having a picture of the bucket seat Bonne shifter porch here, too. If I switch over to a manual trans in my convertible (power buckets), it'd be helpful to know what I'm looking at. :-)

Thanks,

--Corey

heckinohio 09-09-2011 09:10 PM

coreybrenner..........Check the pictures in Stuarts post, he has a black one & a fiberglass one. These are the same application & look just like the one I have except mine looks used. PJH

Stuart 09-09-2011 09:25 PM

PJ, those are for a bench seat Bonneville. I'm not sure what one for a bucket seat Bonneville looks like, all I know is it has a different part number.

Engine-Ear 09-09-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 4412929)
PJ, those are for a bench seat Bonneville. I'm not sure what one for a bucket seat Bonneville looks like, all I know is it has a different part number.

...even though there was no console in '61? Interesting.

Stuart 09-10-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine-Ear (Post 4413014)
...even though there was no console in '61? Interesting.

But there were bucket seat cars and bench seat cars, with different style shifters, so there were four different part numbers for the shift porches.

540317 Catalina and Ventura with bucket seats
540121 Catalina and Ventura with bench seats
540261 Star Chief and Bonneville with bucket seats
540227 Star Chief and Bonneville with bench seats

Engine-Ear 09-10-2011 09:32 PM

Wow. Seeing that one example, how on EARTH did GM make money back then, let alone now? (rhetorical question but it does boggle the mind!)

heckinohio 09-10-2011 09:42 PM

Finally got some pictures
 
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Was in the back bld w/camera today.. Here is the Bonne. shifter 'porch' that I have. I priced this to an inquiry at $100. but cant seem to find where he followed through....unless I get some solid verification of an 'I'll take it!!!', it is still for sale. PJH

Stuart 09-10-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine-Ear (Post 4413640)
Wow. Seeing that one example, how on EARTH did GM make money back then, let alone now? (rhetorical question but it does boggle the mind!)

Using the porch for a Bonneville with bucket seats as an example, I can't imagine they made more than a couple hundred of them for 1961-1964 cars...it doesn't seem like much of a moneymaker.

coreybrenner 09-11-2011 01:03 AM

That was me, PJ. I can't take it now, due to finances and a prior commitment to buy a set of heads (yay!!!), and my Bonne has bucket seats, so this porch wouldn't be what I'd need.

Thanks,

--Corey

coreybrenner 09-11-2011 02:24 AM

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Hope this works...

Here's a pic I stole off eBay, where a guy got this replica '64 Bonne/Bench shift porch for a song.

--Corey


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