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Old Goat Racer 10-19-2012 02:01 PM

Suspension
 
www.hrpartsandstuff.com

Has Anybody tryed this stuff? I need to get my low 10 sec car to go straight.

GTO Dan 10-19-2012 02:21 PM

I was going to use their rear anti roll bar, did research and spoke to people that run it. Everything I found was positive.

I run a Ford 9" with a backbrace and their axle tube attachment would not work for me. Wasn't worth paying that much and still needing to fabricate custom mounts.

Ron H 10-19-2012 05:33 PM

check out http://www.spohn.net/#1.

gman005 10-19-2012 06:00 PM

Hey Ron i just put a spohn in my car and im finally going to test it out tomorrow.

T Syron 10-19-2012 07:29 PM

I installed a hrpartsandstuff.com anti roll bar in my car 6-7 years ago. Worked great. I run radial slicks and the car goes straight as an arrow. It runs high 1.30s 60'


Tom Syron

Old Goat Racer 10-19-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gman005 (Post 4759138)
Hey Ron i just put a spohn in my car and im finally going to test it out tomorrow.

Keep me updated, I've had a 139-141 60'

Goat-Racer 10-20-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Goat Racer (Post 4758968)
www.hrpartsandstuff.com

Has Anybody tryed this stuff? I need to get my low 10 sec car to go straight.

I have the HRparts rear AS bar on mine. Nice add to the car, and a good quality part. The car pretty much drives itself.

What rear control arms do you have now? Are you preloading the uppers?

Old Goat Racer 10-20-2012 10:53 AM

Car & driver weighs about 3000#. It has a set of south side bars with air bags.
I bought the car last year with a 400 engine running 11.40's

blueghoast 10-20-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat-Racer (Post 4759590)
I have the HRparts rear AS bar on mine. Nice add to the car, and a good quality part. The car pretty much drives itself.

What rear control arms do you have now? Are you preloading the uppers?


I am very impressed with how well your cars leaves.
So the next time your at the track and see a pair of
13 size boots sticking out from undreneath the back
of your car it's just me admirering your suspenstion. LOL

GT.

Goat-Racer 10-20-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blueghoast (Post 4759980)
I am very impressed with how well your cars leaves.
So the next time your at the track and see a pair of
13 size boots sticking out from undreneath the back
of your car it's just me admirering your suspenstion. LOL

GT.

Thanks! I'm getting used to visitors at the track. It's mostly people coming over to sure that there is not a BB Chevy under the hood!:)

Goat-Racer 10-20-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Goat Racer (Post 4759670)
Car & driver weighs about 3000#. It has a set of south side bars with air bags.
I bought the car last year with a 400 engine running 11.40's

Is the car driving to one side off the line, or is it the twist at launch you are trying to correct? Do yo have the chassis braces that connect the upper and lower control arm mounting points at the frame?

Old Goat Racer 10-21-2012 10:29 AM

Not much seat time yet, 10 passes. Had to abort 1 run 100' out heading for the wall, right lane. Some twist at launch also. No chassis braces. Previous owner fabbed his own "anti roll bar".

Old Goat Racer 10-21-2012 10:56 AM

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This is the car in question, not the black 1

gman005 10-21-2012 11:09 AM

Ron i got out yesterday the car went straight but when it shifted to 2nd the tire broke loose.

Old Goat Racer 10-21-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gman005 (Post 4760304)
Ron i got out yesterday the car went straight but when it shifted to 2nd the tire broke loose.

60' ?

Goat-Racer 10-21-2012 11:05 PM

Being a bit of an unknown car, I would start by taking everything apart in the rear. Make sure that the frame is sound and none of the control arm mounting points are cracked and deflecting. Thank make sure that the lower control arms are the same length. Is there any adjustability with the sway bar right now? Maybee eliminate it all together just to see what happens.
I would also measure the circumference of the rear tires. You never know.

Old Man Taylor 10-21-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat-Racer (Post 4759590)
I have the HRparts rear AS bar on mine. Nice add to the car, and a good quality part. The car pretty much drives itself.

What rear control arms do you have now? Are you preloading the uppers?

Brian - Can you explain how you preloaded your uppers, i.e., how much?

Ron H 10-21-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gman005 (Post 4760304)
Ron i got out yesterday the car went straight but when it shifted to 2nd the tire broke loose.

How many passes did you make. Just the one?

There could be a few things that cause that. Maybe the track had something on it where you shifted, etc.

How'd the car 60', better than previous? Do you have adjustable rear shocks?

Goat-Racer 10-22-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Man Taylor (Post 4760796)
Brian - Can you explain how you preloaded your uppers, i.e., how much?

Well, the reason I asked about preloading the uppers is that some people still try that as a tool to get the car to leave straignt or not twist up. It may help a little, but all it really does is shift the rear end over in the chassis with a triangulated four link like we have. Shortening up the RH upper control arm really just puts everything in a bind if you have stock or urethane bushings. My uppers and lowers have rod ends front and back (and shperical bearings in the housing) so shortening the RH upper does nothing but shft the rear end over. No preload whatsoever. That is the job of the rear anti sway bar.
I do run at least one full turn of preload with the AS bar though. Nothing else.

Keith Seymore 10-22-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blueghoast (Post 4759980)
I am very impressed with how well your cars leaves.
So the next time your at the track and see a pair of
13 size boots sticking out from undreneath the back
of your car it's just me admirering your suspenstion. LOL

GT.

Brian - I can't say enough nice things about your car, too. Very impressive.

Just be careful and don't back out over blueghoast when they call your class to the lanes....

K


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