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gata79 12-29-2012 03:08 PM

Frustrated. Any ideas?
 
More problems. 535 IA II WP HP Heads. We got the engine rebuilt and in the car. It cranked but would not run. Get a nice vroom and it cuts off. Adjusted the timing but still wouldn't run.Thought it may be the carb,A 1050 I rebuilt. Changed to a 1250 rebuilt by a reputable local company,no difference. Checked compression on all cylinders,they were good. Traced all the wiring down didn't find anything. Put an HEI in it and bypassed the electronics, no change. Cam was degreed. It doesn't backfire or anything. It sounds like it's going to run but it loses rpm and shuts down. Any ideas?

GTO Dan 12-29-2012 03:18 PM

Fuel pressure, volume? Sounds like it cuts off when bowls run dry. Did you check the pump, pick up and lines?

GTO Dan 12-29-2012 03:22 PM

Also check the wiring to see if you are getting consistent voltage to the ignition.

slowbird 12-29-2012 03:25 PM

After engine shuts off is there fuel in the carb? As its dying if you pump the throttle does anything happen?

Half-Inch Stud 12-29-2012 03:31 PM

sounds like dizzy is 180 out. how about that?

SupergasDil 12-29-2012 03:47 PM

Sounds like you are losing power when you let off of the key in the start position. Possibly a bad coil ?

dammen8 12-29-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SupergasDil (Post 4816167)
Sounds like you are losing power when you let off of the key in the start position. Possibly a bad coil ?

That was what I would guess... Or maybe rf noise from somewhere knocking out the ignition right after first fire...

fsted 12-29-2012 04:06 PM

vacuum leak.

gata79 12-29-2012 04:15 PM

Good fuel pressure, doesn't run long enough for the bowls to run dry. I tried another coil but nothing changed. then tried bypassing the coil and other electronics with the HEI(powered from battery),no key it's a frame car but still should have constant power the way we did the HEI. If we pump the carb it will run a little longer,but still dies. It would backfire if 180 out wouldn't it? It sounds good for the short time it runs.

Half-Inch Stud 12-29-2012 04:19 PM

does it sound retarded ?

sound advanced?

old fuel?
water in fuel?

HYD lifters needing pumped?

gata79 12-29-2012 04:26 PM

I feel retarded with all the trouble I've had with this engine. Fuel system cleaned,new fuel,solid lifters. Hard to tell but maybe retarded.

johnta1 12-29-2012 04:38 PM

Has it ran long enough to set timing?

Advance the distributor a couple degrees and see what it does.

What's the valves lashed at?
Possibly too tight?

When it starts, try running it at a fast idle or more?

Gasoline I take it?

Probably something small, really.

:confused:

gata79 12-29-2012 04:52 PM

Gasoline. Hasn't run long enough to set timing,but we did the usual TDC number one then move in small increments till it cranks. I think the lash was .024

63 tempest 12-29-2012 05:58 PM

Check your voltage on your battery low voltage will not give enough spark to your ignition or msd. Sometimes bad cells on battery and not enough voltage to run your ignition on your msd box

gata79 12-29-2012 06:30 PM

Sorry I forgot. We did that too, and got a new battery.

Hooter 12-29-2012 06:38 PM

Sure it's not 180 out?

Scott Roberts 12-29-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooter (Post 4816297)
Sure it's not 180 out?

That would be my guess...

gata79 12-29-2012 06:45 PM

At this point I'm not 100 percent sure of anything, but won't it pop and backfire if it's 180 out?

Half-Inch Stud 12-29-2012 07:52 PM

BEFORE you second- guess the cam timing chain installation,

set the card idle screw to a high idle. THEN TRY a 2-person effort to keep it running with pedal effort, and even starting fluid shots, and quick dizzy twist to attain "running".

Basically anything it takes to achieve warm-up, with constant monitoring of OIL PRESSURE, and thermal gauge(s).

Guessing: rehone or more causing rings to need re-seated?

Scott Roberts 12-29-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gata79 (Post 4816303)
At this point I'm not 100 percent sure of anything, but won't it pop and backfire if it's 180 out?

No...it can act much like it is now.


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