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necdb3 01-15-2014 07:40 PM

70 ssj on ebay
 
Anyone seen this one before?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Gran...US_Cars_Trucks

J.C.you 01-15-2014 10:40 PM

....anyone have a guess what it may bring? 6 figures?

Ram4king 01-15-2014 11:10 PM

Whaaaat?

ssj71 01-16-2014 12:23 AM

I believe this car is being offered outright at $24,500. I had a friend drive down to see it and he was quite disappointed despite it's beautiful appearance in the pictures. He told me there was a surprising amount of bondo in the car.

I remember this car in Darrel's warehouse the first time I flew over to see him in Texas.

It does appear to be a very early SSJ and quite possibly the first one made. Darrel Yoder owned and restored this car probably in the 2002-2004 range and he was a hawk when it came to doing the cars correctly and researching their backgrounds. One of the best in the business in finding and documenting rare cars.

hada76 01-16-2014 01:13 AM

the subsequent owner must have thrashed it a bit

J.C.you 01-16-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ssj71 (Post 5109019)
I believe this car is being offered outright at $24,500. I had a friend drive down to see it and he was quite disappointed despite it's beautiful appearance in the pictures. He told me there was a surprising amount of bondo in the car.

I remember this car in Darrel's warehouse the first time I flew over to see him in Texas.

It does appear to be a very early SSJ and quite possibly the first one made. Darrel Yoder owned and restored this car probably in the 2002-2004 range and he was a hawk when it came to doing the cars correctly and researching their backgrounds. One of the best in the business in finding and documenting rare cars.

:eek:wow, seems like the market is very soft and or these cars are way under valued with the documented history of the Vaughn connection.

thepontiacman 01-16-2014 11:12 AM

This is the car that I sold to Darrel back years ago. I have the PHS on it. A friend found it about 15 miles from here in AL.

The car did not come with the Hurst SSJ emblems,supposedly due to the early production and emblem availability. It had regular SJ emblems on it. I was told that there were two cars built close together and this was the first one.

Darrel told me that this was the first SSJ made. It is the car on the factory Hurst Brochure for 1970.

It has brown interior and was numbers matching when it was sold.

I see the seller has my documents and Smoke Signals story about the car in the pics on ebay.

Anyone interested in the car that may have questions about its history,let me know.

I wish i could have kept it. I really like those cars.

[email protected]

hada76 01-16-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thepontiacman (Post 5109206)
I wish i could have kept it. I really like those cars.

[email protected]

same here, I had a triple white '72 that could have made an awesome hurst clone

REFORMULATED 01-17-2014 12:03 AM

GPs are a great value
 
These cars are way under valued , but like 63-65 Riveras GS, 66-67 Olds Toronados they will come up and be at 50K for top notch cars before you know it. A 70 GP 400 sold at Mecum in the low 40's through it looked like it had more invested in the restoration. GPs are a great value when you consider the quality, how well they drive and styling. Just my 02 cents..

Jerry H. 01-17-2014 12:23 AM

I'm still trying to figure out the link that confirms the fact that this is the actual car that Linda Vaughn used. Anyone else figure that out?

ssj71 01-17-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry H. (Post 5109805)
I'm still trying to figure out the link that confirms the fact that this is the actual car that Linda Vaughn used. Anyone else figure that out?

Hard to be 100% positive on that issue without her or someone at Hurst verifying it (maybe Don Morton). But, the fact that this is a very early VIN SSJ and the non-SSJ emblems on the fenders puts it as a frontrunner. The stock Pontiac fender emblems suggest that this is a pre-production SSJ...

Hurst may have had 1,2, or 3 of these SSJs around at that time, so it's near impossible to conclude, at least from my POV.

Keith Vrabec 01-17-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by J.C.you (Post 5108931)
....anyone have a guess what it may bring? 6 figures?

So the guy calls me a couple weeks ago, sez this car is up for sale and it is nice, rare etc...Knows I'm some sort of SSJ expert or something....OK....


So I told him I know the car and he sez it's up for about $25k and he can get it for $20k

Told him to buy it at $20k if he likes it, but that's top market on the car. Go ahead try to flip the car but you"ll probably be holding the bag on it. Maybe get some more on ebay or whatever. MEgabucks? no.

HELLO....IT'S A GRAND PRIX...

Kind of funny I think. Not a great car, nice driver with detailing. I don't want it.

White paint hides soooooo much in pics.

red1975pacer 01-17-2014 03:53 PM

Still at 20-25k would be a unique eye catcher at just about any show. forget about the "Linda claims" and just consider it an SSJ. Im bidding on it

J.C.you 01-17-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Vrabec (Post 5110206)
So the guy calls me a couple weeks ago, sez this car is up for sale and it is nice, rare etc...Knows I'm some sort of SSJ expert or something....OK....


So I told him I know the car and he sez it's up for about $25k and he can get it for $20k

Told him to buy it at $20k if he likes it, but that's top market on the car. Go ahead try to flip the car but you"ll probably be holding the bag on it. Maybe get some more on ebay or whatever. MEgabucks? no.

HELLO....IT'S A GRAND PRIX...

Kind of funny I think. Not a great car, nice driver with detailing. I don't want it.

White paint hides soooooo much in pics.

ok, the green GP with rust you are selling is $17,500? HELLO?...am I missing something? Just trying to learn something here about GPs.

RamAir 01-17-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by red1975pacer (Post 5110232)
Still at 20-25k would be a unique eye catcher at just about any show. forget about the "Linda claims" and just consider it an SSJ. Im bidding on it

I'm on it too. Let's not get into a 'war'

red1975pacer 01-17-2014 07:51 PM

Im not going any higher then 25. But you never know what some "yahoo" may try to bid. No way is this a 30k car

J.C.you 01-17-2014 11:09 PM

my opinion you guys are way low on what this car will bring.

ssj71 01-17-2014 11:13 PM

I'm with you JC, I think it will end well for the seller...

Keith Vrabec 01-18-2014 01:20 AM

my green car has about as much rust on it as the bumper brackets of yours....don't recall you seeing it...

ssj71 01-18-2014 12:50 PM

70 SSJ
 
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Here's the car used in the 70 SSJ color brochure. You'll notice the stock SJ emblem on the driver's side but not on the passenger side. A keen eye will tell you why. Any guesses?


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