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67gtospud 01-23-2014 11:12 PM

Good news from the machine shop today
 
Finally got the call I was waiting for from the machine shop where I dropped off my engine. He said everything looks excellent! All of the oil galleries are clean. The crank is in great shape and doesn't need to be turned. So I ordered my new bearings today all standard size. Also all of the cylinders measure at 0.001" taper. My deck height is currently at 0.020 and he will deck it to 0.005. Also all of the pistons look like new. All he has left to do is deck the block, polish the crank and brake the glaze on the cylinders.He said he's going to try to have it all finished by the end of next week. The only thing I need to get yet is a new dipstick tube. I'm going to order the stainless steel one from our host.

66bonne 01-23-2014 11:58 PM

Happy happy happy.

Jim

67gtospud 01-24-2014 12:00 AM

Yes! Lol he had called and asked if I could stop by the shop; I was expecting the worst. But I was looking at all the old bearings while he was dealing with a customer and everything looked great.

Firebob 01-24-2014 12:18 AM

How much is a polish of the crank?

67cruiser 01-24-2014 12:28 AM

Not to sound, well,crazy but just how can he tell if oil galleys are clean unless he removed the front & rea plugs???

67gtospud 01-24-2014 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 67cruiser (Post 5116020)
Not to sound, well,crazy but just how can he tell if oil galleys are clean unless he removed the front & rea plugs???

He did remove the front and rear plugs.

67gtospud 01-24-2014 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebob (Post 5116012)
How much is a polish of the crank?

With all the work and labor my total is 300 so for just polishing the crank I'm not positive.

67gtospud 01-25-2014 09:01 AM

I ordered a stainless steel dipstick tube from our host yesterday so I should have everything I need by the time my block is done. I will be doing reassembly and am wondering If I should use blue lock tight on the threads of the rod studs upon reassembly?

Half-Inch Stud 01-25-2014 09:17 AM

Machine Shop Bill like that means a 1-piece oilpan gasket from Butler's sounds affordable.

67gtospud 01-25-2014 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud (Post 5116981)
Machine Shop Bill like that means a 1-piece oilpan gasket from Butler's sounds affordable.

I thought about one but seeing as how I'm well over on an already tight budget I'm going to use the complete gasket set I already have. I do however need to get another set of valve cover gaskets since I'm adding a valve cover spacer.

67cruiser 01-25-2014 10:33 AM

make sure you run a good oil pump 60 psi.

Torquewar 01-25-2014 10:58 AM

Nice to hear good news on a tear down and a fairly simple reassembly.
The one piece gasket is really nice but with some patience the stock type stuff will work. I really like to use Permatex (Right Stuff) seals very nice.
I personally dont use any thread locker inside a motor. If everything is clean and threads are straight then use a good calibrated Torque wrench and your good to go.

gtofreek 01-25-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 67cruiser (Post 5116020)
Not to sound, well,crazy but just how can he tell if oil galleys are clean unless he removed the front & rea plugs???

Cruiser, you sure seem to have a thing about oil galley plugs not being removed. It seems as though any thread having to do with oil galleys, you accuse shops[myself included] of not pulling oil galley plugs out. You obviously have had a bad experience in this area.

Spud, don't use Locktite on your rod bolts/nuts. If you have ARP bolts/nuts, then use ARP Ultra moly lube. If using stock bolts/nuts, use 30 weight motor oil. Torque them to specs, then go over them after they are all torqued down. None should turn anymore before reaching torque. If they do, they are stretching and need to be replaced. If the bolts/nuts come loose, it wasn't because you didn't use Locktite, but rather because they were not torqued down.

67gtospud 01-26-2014 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gtofreek (Post 5117222)
Cruiser, you sure seem to have a thing about oil galley plugs not being removed. It seems as though any thread having to do with oil galleys, you accuse shops[myself included] of not pulling oil galley plugs out. You obviously have had a bad experience in this area.

Spud, don't use Locktite on your rod bolts/nuts. If you have ARP bolts/nuts, then use ARP Ultra moly lube. If using stock bolts/nuts, use 30 weight motor oil. Torque them to specs, then go over them after they are all torqued down. None should turn anymore before reaching torque. If they do, they are stretching and need to be replaced. If the bolts/nuts come loose, it wasn't because you didn't use Locktite, but rather because they were not torqued down.

I will be using the stock studs and nuts for the rods as well as stock bolts for the heads and mains. Will 10w-30 be alright for lube as that is the weight I will be using for oil.

Squidward 01-26-2014 02:16 AM

Congrats! I love to hear a happy shop story!

gtofreek 01-26-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 67gtospud (Post 5117703)
I will be using the stock studs and nuts for the rods as well as stock bolts for the heads and mains. Will 10w-30 be alright for lube as that is the weight I will be using for oil.

10-30 would probably be fine.

67gtospud 01-27-2014 10:55 AM

thanks! im looking forward to some official forward progress lol

67gtospud 02-02-2014 08:41 PM

I got the block back Friday. Saturday afternoon I received the new dipstick tube from our host. I wish it would've been a tighter fit than it was but with a little high temp rtv it went in snug. Double checked all of my oil clearances on rods and mains and all are 0.0015-0.002". The rotating assembly all went together smooth as did the windage tray, lower dipstick tube and oil pump. I'm still waiting on my cam and lifters which I'm not too happy about as its been just over 2 weeks now. So since I'm waiting now I went ahead and bagged the engine where paint should no go and primed and painted it and set the already painted parts on the block and everything looks great. So I guess I'll update again once my cam and lifters arrive

428GTO70 02-02-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 67gtospud (Post 5124836)
I got the block back Friday. Saturday afternoon I received the new dipstick tube from our host. I wish it would've been a tighter fit than it was but with a little high temp rtv it went in snug. Double checked all of my oil clearances on rods and mains and all are 0.0015-0.002". The rotating assembly all went together smooth as did the windage tray, lower dipstick tube and oil pump. I'm still waiting on my cam and lifters which I'm not too happy about as its been just over 2 weeks now. So since I'm waiting now I went ahead and bagged the engine where paint should no go and primed and painted it and set the already painted parts on the block and everything looks great. So I guess I'll update again once my cam and lifters arrive

Awesome! I always liked that part of the build. Getting new paint on the block and seeing how its gonna look. Grats! :)

67gtospud 02-02-2014 09:48 PM

Thanks! It's finally a part of the car that's coming together

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jmp9bhct3nu4gx3/IMAG0019.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5b3kx9709d69bn/IMAG0020.jpg


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