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goatman65 07-11-2014 06:43 AM

coat hooks
 
Did the 65 hardtop use one or two coat hooks? I don't remember how many I took off but I only have one.

Chris65LeMans 07-11-2014 01:25 PM

Mine only has one. That's certainly not the final word, but it's what I'd bet is correct.

brut4s 07-11-2014 08:23 PM

Mine has I per side

151007 07-12-2014 10:58 AM

My 64 hardtop with original headliner, built in February at the Freemont plant has only one, located on the drivers side. Thanks for posting the question as it was on my mind also. It would be interesting to know if there was a reason why some cars have one and others two such as the plant where manufactured, optional equipment, etc. The reason I mentioned having the original headliner is that a friend who restored a 65 added a second coat hook after replacing the headliner, thinking that was how it was supposed to be.

60sstuff 07-12-2014 11:25 AM

For what it is worth, my 66 is Fremont built (01B) and only has "one" coat hook on the LH side.

goatman65 07-13-2014 03:35 AM

I replaced what was left of the original headliner 30 yrs ago and never reinstalled the hook[s]. I am now replacing the headliner again and figured this would be the time to mark the hook locations. I'll check my dads 66 to see how many it has.

brut4s 07-13-2014 04:21 AM

My '65 has the original headliner Fremont built and has 1 coat hook per side.

Option 382 07-13-2014 09:47 AM

brut4s, Is your car a post body?

brut4s 07-16-2014 02:32 PM

No it is not.

John V. 07-16-2014 07:23 PM

What they did get and what they should have gotten can be two different things.

According to the '66 Parts Catalog all '41 up Pontiacs are shown as using (2) coat hooks per car EXCEPT for Convertibles.

It looks like Convertibles did not get Coat Hooks until the '65-'66 Convertibles which are listed as using (1) per car.

No distinction is given between Tempests and big Pontiacs.

The '65-'66 convertible also lists a different p/n compared with all the others, 4895704.

The others all show 4840719. This p/n seems to have been very common for GM cars thru '66, always indicating 2 per car from what I noticed.

our 65 GTO 07-16-2014 08:43 PM

Our 65 has the original headliner; 1 coat hook. Car was built in Pontiac. I have wondered this question for a while!

Don.

8LUG 07-18-2014 05:29 PM

coat hook
 
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Service Craftsman News No. 1-1964

John V. 07-20-2014 09:03 PM

John great catch!

I had looked thru the SCNs, scanning the indexes, but missed that one. Was looking for "Coat Hook" in the alphabetical list, never saw the listing for "R.H. Coat Hooks".

Settles it for me.

I'm still going with no coat hook for the '64 convertible (Lemans or Tempest Custom) unless somebody knows differently?

60sstuff 07-20-2014 10:53 PM

The Hook
 
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Left hand coat hook - 64 GTO Convertible - Original Owner.

Chris65LeMans 07-21-2014 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris65LeMans (Post 5232055)
Mine only has one. That's certainly not the final word, but it's what I'd bet is correct.

I went to the dry-cleaner the other day and looked - I've got hooks on both sides! It's some other car I owned in the past with only one...

John V. 07-21-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 60sstuff (Post 5238306)
Left hand coat hook - 64 GTO Convertible - Original Owner.

Okay, I checked my top frame. No coat hook but it DOES have a screw hole about that same location. No screw hole on the right side.

So now I need to know, was the coat hook for the '64 convertible the same as the one in the coupe? If so, I wonder why the convertible hook was different for '65?

jtea64 07-21-2014 04:05 PM

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Picture shows the coat hook from my 64 GTO conv and my 64 GTO HT.
Conv is the small hook - a zinc casting.
HT is the large hook - a sheet metal stamping

John V. 07-21-2014 04:40 PM

Jim, excellent. FWIW, it looked like a different hook in the picture, I'm glad you have the confirmation. I bet the coupe hook either would poke at the top or snap off when the top was dropped, either way, they were compelled to issue a specific coat hook for the convertible.

I googled it and looks like PY offers the convertible hook as a repro. PY190, $11 each.

Interesting that they offer the coupe hooks by the pair.

I feel for you '65 & '66 guys. The SCN applies to '64. Wonder if the RH coat hook continued to be a dealer only thing for '65?

If you have 2 hooks in a '65 or '66, no way to know if the RH was dealer added or factory since the screw hole was always provided.

At least the '64 guys can be sure. One factory hook only, different hook for the convertible. Least that's my conclusion. Other opinions may vary! :)

Keith Seymore 07-21-2014 05:39 PM

One coat hook for me; LH side, the long one like shown at the top of jtea's pic.

Early September of 1964 Pontiac build.

K

60sstuff 07-21-2014 07:38 PM

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Hard Tops got the long chrome stamped steel as mentioned above and the Convertibles got the little stubby chrome hook (big enough for one hanger).

The small style hook was used for the convertibles from 64 to 67.

First two pics below show 66 Convertibles with a LH hook.

Third pic shows a 67 Convertible with this hook (very difficult to see, but it's there when zoomed in).

Last pic shows a 66 Hardtop with the long stamped hook.

PS - location seems to vary a bit in the pics of the convertible frames.


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