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dataway 01-26-2016 10:47 PM

Exhaust Manifolds
 
Is there much to be gained using RA/HO exhaust manifolds on a stock build compared to the standard logs?

Looking to keep the car as correct as possible and it's a YS engine ... so no RA/HO manifolds.

Did the 326/350/400 in 68 use the same standard log manifolds?

Did all the 68 GTO with standard manifolds have the exhaust flapper valve on one side?

Thanks,

b-man 01-26-2016 10:58 PM

All the different engine displacements used the same exhaust manifolds and intakes as well.

You'll gain right around 8 HP with the RA/HO manifolds over the logs on a stock engine.

Pretty sure in '68 the flapper valve was still being used, by '69 it was gone.

dataway 01-27-2016 01:47 AM

Jeez, 8 hp is quite a bit to give up. But they probably ding you pretty good in a show if you have the wrong manifolds.

b-man 01-27-2016 02:13 AM

I'd say 8 HP wouldn't even be noticeable in the seat of the pants while driving it hard, for the roughly $400 cost to install a set the juice ain't worth the squeeze.

Not to mention they'd be incorrect if correctness is your aim here.

dataway 01-27-2016 04:30 AM

LOL, I like that phrase :)

Ok ... another decision made. It's great hearing from people that know more than me.

I could probably get the same performance effect from only putting in a 1/4 tank of gas :)

And yes, correctness is my aim.

dataway 01-27-2016 04:38 AM

Come to think of it .... anyone know the proper part numbers for left and right exhaust manifolds ..68 YS400 GTO.

grandam1979 01-27-2016 11:21 AM

We just took a set of log manifolds off a 68 GTO and will be for sale. I have not looked at part # I dont think either one has a flapper in it.

dataway 01-27-2016 02:33 PM

I can't remember if mine had the flapper when I took them off many years ago. Wonder if it's a "late/early" thing in 68. My 68 is July 68 ... doesn't get much later than that.

ilo 01-27-2016 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandam1979 (Post 5524400)
We just took a set of log manifolds off a 68 GTO and will be for sale. I have not looked at part # I dont think either one has a flapper in it.

I would be interested in them if the OP does not want them...

James

'ol Pinion head 01-27-2016 07:06 PM

Pass side had the flapper for '68, flapper was gone for '69.

ponchjoe 01-27-2016 07:28 PM

Mine has flapper (stuck open of course) After I pick up the motor GrandAm1979 is talking about and install it they will be for sale.

goatless 01-27-2016 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dataway (Post 5524320)
Ok ... another decision made. It's great hearing from people that know more than me.

I could probably get the same performance effect from only putting in a 1/4 tank of gas :)

And yes, correctness is my aim.

I think you made the right choice. If you want to get a little more performance while still looking "correct", do a search- B-man and I have made a bunch of posts on modifying log manifolds. One more thing on switching to RA manifolds- you may pick up a few hp, but you'll also be adding 20 pounds, or so, that'll negate any gains. ;)

dataway 01-27-2016 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goatless (Post 5524590)
I think you made the right choice. If you want to get a little more performance while still looking "correct", do a search- B-man and I have made a bunch of posts on modifying log manifolds. One more thing on switching to RA manifolds- you may pick up a few hp, but you'll also be adding 20 pounds, or so, that'll negate any gains. ;)


Very good to know about the weight ... and the experimenter in me immediately started wondering what could be done to improve the logs ... the port openings certainly aren't anything to be proud of, I assume port matching would help.
I'll see if I can find those posts.

Ponchjoe ... I might be interested in those.

Thanks guys.

goatless 01-27-2016 08:16 PM

Here's one of them- http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...t=log+manifold

dataway 01-28-2016 05:26 PM

Excellent, thanks for the link.

Wish I could narrow down when exactly they stopped using the flapper. I have a very late 68 and would love it if I didn't have to have the flapper to be correct. I'd weld it open or remove the flapper and leave the parts on the outside anyway.


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