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Hitman 02-18-2016 06:47 PM

3 on the tree move to the floor?
 
I'm looking at a car that is a manual but it's on the column. It is a 64 Catalina. I was wondering what would be involved with moving it to the floor? I've driven a three on the tree before but I think it would be more natural on the floor.

tom s 02-18-2016 07:11 PM

you will need a console steering column and a shifter indicator filler.You will then need a shifter porch.A column out of a GP is perfect.Tom

marxjunk 02-18-2016 07:12 PM

c'mon dude...you know you want a 65

finding the correct shifter would be hard..even an aftermarket..and i doubt theres a new one avil..its a special trans in there....but other than that its as simple as cutting a hole in the floor..and bolting the shifter in

Hitman 02-18-2016 07:20 PM

I'm going to look at a 65 on Saturday.

tom s 02-18-2016 07:33 PM

A 65 is a bore compared to 63-64s!Tom

63gpman 02-18-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tom s (Post 5535219)
A 65 is a bore compared to 63-64s!Tom

LOL, they don't have to be!!! The 65 has a much nicer ride than the earlier Pontiacs IMO and even more so once you add a fast ratio gear box, larger front sway bar and a rear one. Certainly they are larger in size and feel more like a boat, but the comfort of them on cruises as well as the improvements mentioned above to the suspension make them my choice, I know a few others that would agree ;)

tom s 02-18-2016 08:07 PM

I owned one brand new back then,could not wait to get rid of it!They not only feel like a boat they are a boat!Tom

Stuart 02-18-2016 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marxjunk (Post 5535210)
finding the correct shifter would be hard..even an aftermarket..and i doubt theres a new one avil..its a special trans in there....but other than that its as simple as cutting a hole in the floor..and bolting the shifter in

Summit Racing appears to sell a Hurst Indy shifter for a 3 speed trans in a 1964 Pontiac. I put a Competition Plus shifter on the four speed transmission in my car, they had it in stock no problem.

marxjunk 02-18-2016 08:29 PM

he sold a 63 or 4 because e wanted a 65..lets help keep him on track

tom s 02-18-2016 08:37 PM

But now he is looking at a 64 and im trying to correct his errant ways!Tom

Hitman 02-18-2016 08:48 PM

Actually I sold the '63 because it was going to be too much to put back all Pontiac. I loved the body lines of the '63, the '64 is not as nice to me but still a good looking car. But to me it is hard to beat the ride of the '65 which I really like. Here is the '64 I was looking at. Base model car with really no options. Not even power steering or brakes. Supposed to be a 44k mile car. I cannot say he is lying or not but it has had a respray. If I could find shipping under a grand to get it here from Minnesota they I probably would have wired the money by now. Looking at the pics, what do you think its worth?
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%...211381&o=OneUp

The '65 is really nice car and loaded too but it originally came from Pennsylvania but it has been in NC for 18 years. Don't know really what to do but I know that '64 needs to be shifted from the floor.

tom s 02-18-2016 09:01 PM

That is a very nice car!I for sure would want power steering on it,maybe even before the floor shift.Tom

Stuart 02-18-2016 09:38 PM

That '64 is pretty. Power steering and brakes would be useful upgrades; my car has neither and while it's not a problem going down the road, it can be a bear to parallel park. ;)

Engine-Ear 02-18-2016 09:41 PM

NERDS!

63gpman 02-18-2016 09:43 PM

I think I saw that 64 for sale last year. I was slow on going to look at it. Looks nice. If not far from Rochester, MN, I am sure I could figure a way to put my eyes on it for you.

P.S. Tom, I would love to change your mind about these land yachts. You going to POCI this year in Iowa?

tom s 02-18-2016 10:11 PM

I would not trade a restored post 64 big car for my 4 cyc 63 tempest!LOL Well maybe a 69-70 GP 4 speed car.Not going to POCI.Tom

63gpman 02-18-2016 10:12 PM

Those are fighting words!! ;)

Hitman 02-18-2016 10:32 PM

It is in Sleepy Eye, MN. Shipping is going to really hinder this deal though.

63gpman 02-18-2016 10:40 PM

I don't think I will be making it that direction anytime soon. Last shipping quote I got from MN to TX was $800.


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and

gtojohn He and some of his friends travel all over the place with cars. I know they are hauling 2 Firebirds from MN to St Louis this weekend.

Keith Seymore 02-19-2016 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom s (Post 5535207)
you will need a console steering column and a shifter indicator filler.You will then need a shifter porch.A column out of a GP is perfect.Tom

I went from a 3 on the tree to a four on the floor in my first pickup.

I left the original column in place and cut the "nub" off where the shift handle was. That was a perfect place to mount the Sun tach (to cover the hole).

I pinned the column in place so that it would not accidentally drop down and prevent me from getting the key out.

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Originally Posted by marxjunk (Post 5535210)
....but other than that its as simple as cutting a hole in the floor..and bolting the shifter in

Mark is right: if you are not trying to be authentic then it is as easy as cutting a hole in the floor and bolting the shifter on.

K


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