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GregL 03-03-2016 07:29 PM

Turn Signal Cancel cam W/O Tilt?
 
Anyone making them?
If not, anyone got a good used one they can part with?
Thanks, Greg

silverbullet07 03-03-2016 08:53 PM

Do you have a Ames performance catalog? Page 145 list a couple.

69FIREBIRD76MM 03-03-2016 10:14 PM

Do you have a picture?

FBird69 03-04-2016 02:43 AM

AMES Part#: FM432L
Description: 69-75 CANCEL CAM, ALL W/O TILT(RE)
Price: 17.00

I bought one back in 2010, works great. I also needed the horn contact kit, bought that from Performance Years (which is now Ames).

http://s11.postimg.org/7oq18h20z/xcel.jpg

GregL 03-04-2016 05:00 PM

Thanks guys,
I do not have the Ames catalog, but I will be giving them a call today!
Greg

GregL 03-04-2016 05:13 PM

Well, just got off the phone with Ames and I'm right back where I started. The FM432L only fits '69-'75. The only one they offer for '68 is with tilt column, same as everyone else. I can't believe this part is so difficult to locate. :confused:
Sorry, I don't have a picture of the original one.

hakansan 03-04-2016 07:41 PM

What Year?

Held for Ransom 03-04-2016 08:10 PM

http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...1967-1968.html
One like this?

GregL 03-04-2016 09:18 PM

Sorry, it's for my 1968 (forgot to mention that in my O.P.)
G.

silverbullet07 03-04-2016 11:33 PM

The part number is 399292which is the same that held for ransom posted from eckler. Also here is a nos one http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-67-68-VE...NS3Ys2&vxp=mtr

silverbullet07 03-04-2016 11:54 PM

This says it will fit. Cheap enough to try.

http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/NDP7352950

GregL 03-05-2016 04:51 PM

Hmmmm?
Those two pieces may have the same part number but they are different. The Eckler's part listed for the Corvette has a built in plunger and the other one doesn't. I need one without the plunger so it will accept the plunger from my deluxe steering wheel harness. I tried that very one from NAPA (the green one) and, while it does fit, the turn signals do not cancel at the correct times. RHS cancels immediately and LHS does not cancel at all unless you way over turn the wheel to reach the cancel cam.
G.

GregL 03-09-2016 04:36 PM

sb07,
I checked the eBay listing. I wonder if anyone has noticed the part number on the box and the molded part number on the cam are different?
Greg

hakansan 03-09-2016 04:54 PM

GM part# and # on part is not always the same.
Found one used:
http://www.firebirdcentral.com/1967_...p/ste-111a.htm
Håkan

GregL 03-09-2016 11:41 PM

Thanks, but that listing says "currently unavailable".

1969GiPper 03-10-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregL (Post 5543319)
Hmmmm?
Those two pieces may have the same part number but they are different. The Eckler's part listed for the Corvette has a built in plunger and the other one doesn't. I need one without the plunger so it will accept the plunger from my deluxe steering wheel harness. I tried that very one from NAPA (the green one) and, while it does fit, the turn signals do not cancel at the correct times. RHS cancels immediately and LHS does not cancel at all unless you way over turn the wheel to reach the cancel cam.
G.

Remember working on a vehicle in the early 80's with the symptom you describe. In one direction the turn signal would cancel with very little movement of the steering wheel and in the opposite direction would take nearly a full turn of the wheel. While it was on a locking steering column (ignition lock cylinder located in the column) I believe this should apply to your 68 column.

This may sound like a dumb question but have you recently had your steering column out of the car (disconnected from the steering gear box)? When I say "disconnected from the steering gear box" I mean right at the box and NOT at the joint at the bottom of the steering column where the intermediate shaft connects. Did you have the steering wheel off the column at the time? If yes then I "MAY" know what the problem is. When you have the steering column out of the car you can spin the main shaft of the column as many times in either direction that you want because there is nothing to stop the rotation. When the column is connected to the steering gear box the rotation of the main shaft is limited by the gears inside the box. Because the cancelling cam is splined/indexed and can only go on the shaft one way and with the symptoms you're having you may have installed the intermediate shaft to the steering gear box 180 degrees off. If the steering wheel was still on the column at that time then you would have noticed that the steering wheel was now upside down.

To correct first have the front tires pointing straight ahead. Then note the position of the plastic tube on the cancelling cam (where the horn wire plugs into). Then remove the cancelling cam from the steering column. Next disconnect the intermediate shaft from the steering gear box. Leave the intermediate shaft connected to the base of the steering column. Now turn (rotate) the intermediate shaft one half turn (180 degrees) in either direction. Next reinstall the cancelling cam. The plastic tube for the horn wire connection should now be 180 degrees from where you noted earlier. Then reconnect the shaft to the gear box. If I'm right your turn signals should now cancel correctly in both directions. In the case of the vehicle I was working on the column had been previously out of the vehicle by another technician doing a theft repair a week earlier.

GregL 03-10-2016 03:33 PM

Thanks GiPper,
Good info, but the column has not been disconnected from the steering box. I had the correct cam before and it cancelled at the correct positions. The tube that extends through the steering wheel to hold the harness plunger was broken so I had no horn. I replaced that cam with the aftermarket piece and somewhere in the shuffle, the original (broken) cam was lost.
G.

GregL 03-15-2016 08:31 PM

Just a follow up, I went with the one listed on eBay part number 399292, and it works perfect.
Thanks sivlerbullet07!

silverbullet07 03-16-2016 08:51 AM

I'm glad it worked out for you.


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