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ck67goat 07-27-2017 01:53 PM

Rear End swap - opinions
 
So I may be faced with the decision to finally replace my factory 10 bolt. Found some seepage where axle tube and carrier meet. Rear end is now removed and a reputable shop was going to properly weld tubes to carrier, however upon disassembly, they found the Yukon rear axles (with maybe 1,000 street miles and maybe 30 or so drag passes) are twisted :eek:

So now the dilemma of repairing what I have to not mess with suspension, or "move up" to a stronger unit and start from scratch. Car will also be driven on the street. My suspension mods were simply boxed lower control arms and HO "hop stops" (relocate upper control arms location) and car hooked and handled very well (consistent 1.60 flat 60 foot times)

Seemingly if the 10 bolt no longer can handle the duties, I'm leaning toward at 12" rather than 9" Ford setup. Likely the HO hop stops would no longer fit. Not sure if I only need to be concerned with final pinion angle or are the angles of the control arms (between top and bottom) also critical. For differential choices, I like the fact my 10 bolt style limited slip has worked well without rebuilding the way clutch types need. Seemingly no such option for either 12 bolt or 9" -shopping Moser's website, seems "wavetrac" is the more reliable unit?

Just wondering what other folks have done and results. This car is both street and drag use, thus want to limit to bolt on suspension items and have a good solid rear, traction as well as street-ability.

surfsama 07-27-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ck67goat (Post 5766934)
Seemingly if the 10 bolt no longer can handle the duties

If you're twisting axles...that's a pretty good sign it's time to move up. However, there are people who can make a 10 bolt live a long hard life.

I ordered as Quick Time Performance 9 inch Ford and it was a drop-in for my car. If needed, I can swap-out the center section for gear changes but primarily I just wanted the stronger rear end. A 12 Bolt would be an equally good choice. If you need "no-hop" bars you might consider adjustable upper control arms instead.

ho428 07-27-2017 02:40 PM

I ordered a 12 bolt with Tru-Trac from Moser, and while like in Surf's signature I might have found a cheaper route, I've put over 500 hp to it road racing for years without issue, that alone is worth the extra.
I also spec'd the big Ford (Torino) bearings, meaning no C clips.

ponyakr 07-27-2017 03:02 PM

May as well go to a 9", with big axles, and enjoy all the advantages of the removable chunk, and the large number of available gear ratios, and other 9" parts.

Skip Fix 07-27-2017 03:37 PM

The 8.2 10 bolt is the weakest out there. there is an 8.5 10 bolt that came in some Buicks and Olds that is a bolt in and can be built strong. they can be hard to find. Of course a 12 bolt- Moser has a stronger casting than the originals. There is a 9" or a Strange Dana 60 all ready to pop in.

Tom Vaught 07-27-2017 08:52 PM

While I became an expert on changing out complete 8.2" 10-Bolt rear axles in the 60s, and even a 12 Bolt (with good service package axles) in the 70s, the 9" Moser axle with the Bena Pinion Seal/Ford Gears/Torino Bearings on the axles, and the Strange carrier have been well worth every dollar I spent.

Tom V.

OCMDGTO 07-28-2017 09:23 AM

X2 on the 9", got mine from quick performance also. I can't believe your 8.2 lasted very long with your setup.

69FIREBIRD76MM 07-28-2017 04:43 PM

9" rear
 
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I bought a Quick Performance nine with moser axles. Very nice rear. The Moser is nice too but more money.

ck67goat 07-28-2017 07:12 PM

Thanks everyone, will look closely at both Moser and quick performance.

Chris65LeMans 07-28-2017 07:37 PM

I found a 12 bolt core from a '65 Chevelle (narrower to fit my '65) and added an Eaton posi with some new axles.

69FIREBIRD76MM 07-28-2017 07:52 PM

this is a Quick Performance 9"
 
http://m.ebay.com/itm/9-Ford-A-Body-...%257Ciid%253A2

vidguy 10-11-2017 06:55 PM

Can you fit your sway bar with this in place? Did you order it with the GM ends? Thanks!

Rob B 10-12-2017 04:11 PM

When I built the wife car 5 years ago, I just called Moser and had them build me one of their 12 bolts with a spool, 35 spline axles, big ford bearing (no C clips), with perch mounts already welded on. Add your own backing plates and brakes and away you go.

When I redid my car a couple years ago, I sold the 12 bolt I had in the car and applied that to another new Moser Built reared but this time I went with the Dana with 40 spline axles and 5/8 studs.
We drive both cars on the street and hers has actually competed and finished Hot Rod Magazines DragWeek the last two years with no issues even with the spool, that alone is 2000+ street miles. Best money you'll spend on a rearend. I went with the Dana in mine because the weight difference is a mute point between that and a 9" and the 9" takes more HP to spin over the Dana. The Dana takes the least amount per Moser.

Scott Roberts 10-12-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OCMDGTO (Post 5767258)
X2 on the 9", got mine from quick performance also. I can't believe your 8.2 lasted very long with your setup.

I also agree with the 9" ford. A lot of options available. However, the 8.2 can take some abuse. I ran one for years on the street and track. It was well prepped...I was running 10.40's at 3200lbs.
I still have it but will upgrade it to a 9" as I finish redoing the car..

gman005 10-13-2017 10:50 AM

Call Strange and get a bolt in 9" and be done.

Hooter 10-13-2017 01:36 PM

I have a Quickperformance 9" with spool in my '65. Bolted right in and also bought a Wilwood brake kit at the same time. So far so good.

Scarebird 10-14-2017 09:54 AM

Another thought on the nine is you can reposition the upper mounts instead of using the Hop-stop brackets.


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