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er455 03-25-2018 04:42 PM

My sleeper T/A at car show
 
https://youtu.be/1XgVA9cHxn4

RUDOLFSSON 03-25-2018 06:39 PM

That's real nice !

JLMounce 03-25-2018 07:41 PM

Incredibly awesome!

Tom Vaught 03-25-2018 09:13 PM

Are you happy with the FITECH system so far?

Tom V.

er455 03-26-2018 09:02 AM

Hey Tom yes the FiTech is pretty damm good and easy to setup but there are a lot of parameters in the system that unless you are a tuner which I am not, it can be confusing but with somebody who can understand the terminology of what can be adjusted it would be benifical... my car did not run right with a carb on E85 and now runs great it could be fined tuned better but need to find a tuner to do that because every time I start messing with the pro tuner section of the unit I get myself in trouble ... but I would highly recommend the FiTech system over a carb .

v869tr6 03-26-2018 09:36 AM

Great to see another turbocharged Pontiac street car, looks awesome!

70 bird 03-27-2018 12:53 AM

Looks great!! Keep us updated on the fi tech tuning progress.

73 TRANSAM 03-27-2018 01:09 AM

Whos E85 carb did you ran? Thanks.

JSPONT 03-27-2018 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by er455 (Post 5863066)
Hey Tom yes the FiTech is pretty damm good and easy to setup but there are a lot of parameters in the system that unless you are a tuner which I am not, it can be confusing but with somebody who can understand the terminology of what can be adjusted it would be benifical... my car did not run right with a carb on E85 and now runs great it could be fined tuned better but need to find a tuner to do that because every time I start messing with the pro tuner section of the unit I get myself in trouble ... but I would highly recommend the FiTech system over a carb .

Be careful with turning that boost up. On E85 that fi tech is only good for around 800 h.p. 1200 on pump gas. Watch the a/f close. At 12 psi you should be over 800.
Car looks great by the way!

er455 03-27-2018 08:47 AM

Thanks Jeff, I know about the 800 hp on e-85 which sucks ..... at the track I can switch to race gas and retune the a/f stays the same all you have to do is put the correct engine size back in the program , now I add 30% to the size for E85 ....

dreamn69 03-27-2018 02:42 PM

Do you have any links to your build? Car is awesome!

er455 03-27-2018 04:22 PM

Sorry I did not keep a build update as I was trying to hide most of it from my wife 😂 but I can answer any questions about the build if needed

JLMounce 03-27-2018 10:42 PM

I'm most interested in how you have your manifolds, wastegate and oil feed/return lines routed.

Did you utilize a water jacketed center section?

er455 03-28-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLMounce (Post 5863755)
I'm most interested in how you have your manifolds, wastegate and oil feed/return lines routed.

Did you utilize a water jacketed center section?

I have a stock drivers side manifold then a crossover pipe that goes under the car around the oil pan to a handmade custom log manifold , the oil feed line come of the block next to the distributor location, the oil return is a #12 braided Teflon hose that goes to the oil pan in front right under the timing cover were I have a 3/4 “ pipe welded to the pan with a 12 an fitting on it .....the turbo drain is a straight shot to the pan with slight bend this is very important .... hope this helps

JLMounce 03-28-2018 10:54 AM

Thanks, that's absolutely helpful!

Tom Vaught 03-28-2018 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by er455 (Post 5863844)
I have a stock drivers side manifold then a crossover pipe that goes under the car around the oil pan to a handmade custom log manifold , the oil feed line come of the block next to the distributor location, the oil return is a #12 braided Teflon hose that goes to the oil pan in front right under the timing cover were I have a 3/4 “ pipe welded to the pan with a 12 an fitting on it .....the turbo drain is a straight shot to the pan with slight bend this is very important .... hope this helps

Sounds like you have all of the bases covered on your TA, Great Work.

Tom V.

er455 03-29-2018 08:03 AM

Thanks Tom , hey do you think having a 3.5 “down pipe going into 2 - 2 1/2 “ pipes is a restriction on hp ?? Is a 3” exhaust system in order ?

73 TRANSAM 03-29-2018 05:04 PM

On my setup, I have a 5" downpipe about 2 feet then neck down to 4". Then I'm going to do a two 3" pipe to the muffler. This is with a PT91.5 G trim single.

BruceWilkie 03-29-2018 05:20 PM

NA two 2.5" pipes support 500 hp with NO restrictions. Two 3" around 700 hp before it starts to restrict. You can certainly make power above those levels, but that's the @ power level those pipe sizes support before they start creating restriction.

Starting out at 5 and gradually reducing helps reduce back pressure. The turbine will like lots of expansion at the exit, so don't get shy if you have space for BIGGER!

Tom Vaught 03-29-2018 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by er455 (Post 5864242)
Thanks Tom , hey do you think having a 3.5 “down pipe going into 2 - 2 1/2 “ pipes is a restriction on hp ?? Is a 3” exhaust system in order ?

The larger down pipe right off of the Turbine discharge does two things:
1) ALLOW THE SWIRL FROM THE TURBINE TO CHANGE FROM ROTARY MOTION TO LAMINAR FLOW.

2) REMOVE MORE HEAT FROM THE EXHAUST IMMEDIATELY AFTER IT EXITS THE TURBINE (MORE SURFACE AREA TO COOL THE EXHAUST.

You really only need about 12" of length.

Example: A 12 inch piece of pipe 4 inches in diameter will have 150 cubic inches of volume to convert from Radial Flow to Laminar Flow.

It will also have a large enough surface area to cool the pipe flow so that the exhaust has a denser volume and can pass thru a smaller diameter efficiently. Going massively long on the length really just allows the exhaust to pack up in the volume and disrupt flow.

Tom V.


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