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Greg Reid 09-28-2018 02:06 AM

'68 vs '69 sport wheel
 
Are the horn buttons interchangeable?
I know the wheels are slightly different but I'd use the '69 wheel I have if the '68 horn button will interchange. Otherwise, I may sell it.

Greg Reid 09-29-2018 01:48 AM

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Here is what I'm working with... I 'restored' the finish. It's not exactly like the original PMD finish but it does look like wood and not plastic. I was able to simulate some grain and the joints. If I'd known how well the joints were going to show, I would have been neater with them and also placed them in the proper place. That was a boo-boo.
Before;

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538200004

After;

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538200004

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538200004

Greg Reid 09-29-2018 01:49 AM

And here's what I'm wanting to know...Could someone compare this horn button with a '67 OR '68 button?

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...4&d=1538199999

Verdoro 68 09-29-2018 12:04 PM

The ‘68 center is 3 different pieces - the collar which screws to the wheel, the base which is held on by the steering wheel nut, and the button which clips to the base. It looks like you have a collar on yours, but the ‘68 collar is unique due to the shape of the spokes toward the center. You might be able to use the ‘69 collar with the ‘68 base and button. I’ll take/find some pics for you for reference.

Verdoro 68 09-29-2018 05:33 PM

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Hope these help!

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538256737

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538256743

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538256749

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538256755

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Verdoro 68 09-29-2018 06:54 PM

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Not exact, but here are a few measurements.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538261640

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538261537

Greg Reid 09-29-2018 07:05 PM

Wow, I appreciate you going to all that trouble and yes it does help. That's exactly what I needed.
I still don't know if it will fit but I think I'll be able to figure it out, yea or nay, with those pics.
Thanks!
Couple of questions for you...Are those notches at the wide part of each spoke needed? Also, how wide are the spokes at their widest point.

Verdoro 68 09-29-2018 08:03 PM

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Happy to help. As far as I can tell, the notches don't have any functional purpose. At the widest, the spokes are 1-5/16.

I just realized that the collar on my wheel is clocked wrong. The tab that's at 12:00 should be at 4:00. There's a corresponding tab on the back side of the base that I never noticed. However, I can't find my steering wheel puller and the horn seems to work just fine so I guess it's going to stay that way for now.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1538265653

Greg Reid 09-30-2018 12:59 PM

Thanks Ken. Same as the '69. I actually think it might work based on what I'm seeing. I'm not sure about other possible differences (for the purist) but from your pics, I think it will work.
As for the collar, as long as the emblem is straight up and down with the wheel centered it should be a non issue. Thanks again!

dataway 09-30-2018 06:35 PM

I bet the notches are a safety feature ... so the spokes and outer wheel collapse easier in an accident.

Greg Reid 09-30-2018 06:43 PM

Well, that sounds good dataway but why would they get rid of them the following year?

Scott Thelander 09-30-2018 08:30 PM

collars
 
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68 on the top it uses a metal collar
69's have plastic collars

Scott

Verdoro 68 09-30-2018 09:15 PM

The only thing I can think of is maybe the redesigned steering column in ‘69 was able to absorb more of the crash impact?

Greg Reid 09-30-2018 09:49 PM

Scott, since you have an example of each, is there a difference in the wheel itself, like the depth for instance?

gtoguys 10-02-2018 08:52 AM

I had a 69 wheel on my 68 GTO for years. I used a 68 reproduction kit from Ames on the 69 wheel with no problems.

GTO68FXSTC98 10-02-2018 12:26 PM

The 68 wheel is deeper, but I don't know the dimensional difference.

Greg Reid 10-03-2018 02:11 AM

I knew that I had read somewhere over the years that the '68 wheel differed in depth from SOME other year but couldn't remember.
gtoguys, thanks. I think I'm going to use it, at least for a while.

dataway 10-03-2018 03:27 PM

Didn't they start using "collapsible" steering columns around 69? Maybe that's why they did away with the notches.

Verdoro 68 10-03-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 5939077)
I knew that I had read somewhere over the years that the '68 wheel differed in depth from SOME other year but couldn't remember.
gtoguys, thanks. I think I'm going to use it, at least for a while.

According to the Ames catalog, the '69-'70 is 3 1/4" deep and '68 is 4 1/8" deep.

Greg Reid 10-04-2018 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Verdoro 68 (Post 5939293)
According to the Ames catalog, the '69-'70 is 3 1/4" deep and '68 is 4 1/8" deep.


When I look at Scott's photo, I can actually see the difference. Wonder why the change? I think I'd actually like it more shallow as the Deluxe wheel is close enough to my chest as is.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...5&d=1538353808


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