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76TA462 10-10-2019 12:45 PM

Oil Pan Gasket
 
Does someone have a recommendation on using or not using a one-piece oil pan gasket for a 1976 455 (with the 5 tabs at the rear on the pan gasket surface), and a brand-part number. Instead of the normal 4 piece gasket Thanks.

John Milner 10-10-2019 01:03 PM

I have had success with both. The one piece gasket is well worth the money in my opinion. It is designed for an oil pan with 3 tab holes at the rear. To use the one piece gasket, you would just have to cut the tabs off of the gasket or modify your pan to accept the tabs on the gasket. I don't have a part number but the one that I have used is on the BOP Engineering website.

Scott Stoneburg 10-10-2019 01:34 PM

I have installed 1 bought from Butler. The fit was excellent

Dragncar 10-10-2019 04:15 PM

My buddy has a clean, leak free engine with no pan gasket, just silicone.

Formulajones 10-10-2019 05:46 PM

I used the one piece from BOP. Very nice piece, excellent fit, and bone dry.

I've been a fan of them for years. I've used them on SBC and BBC engines for a couple of decades now since Felpro makes them readily available at your local parts store.

So it's nice to finally see someone stepped up for Pontiac. Did I say the one from BOP is a nice piece?

Cliff R 10-11-2019 07:37 AM

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Here is my fix for the rubber rear seal leak problem. Second pic shows how I attach the pick-up tube so it doesn't fall out.

I buy a sheet of cork gasket material and cut it precisely to fit with a razor knife. Never had one drop of oil get past this set-up. The factory rubber seals can and will leak or slip out on you. The wide custom fit cork seal isn't going anyplace.

Never tried the one piece pan seal, but probably well worth the investment over the factory set-up for the later pans that used the "tit" type rubber rear pan seals......Cliff

JSchmitz 10-11-2019 08:52 AM

I've had the rubber rear seals split on me. I use the cork/rubber one in the kit now. Put a thin coat of Ultra Black on mating surfaces and corners.

dataway 10-11-2019 09:42 AM

I had my BOP one piece on and off three times ... still doesn't leak. Have to pay attention to detail at the back though.

JSchmitz 10-11-2019 11:08 AM

I used a Felpro 1 piece on a SBC. It was perfect. Daily driver for two years with no leaks.

Old Goat Racer 10-11-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff R (Post 6070595)
Here is my fix for the rubber rear seal leak problem. Second pic shows how I attach the pick-up tube so it doesn't fall out.

I buy a sheet of cork gasket material and cut it precisely to fit with a razor knife. Never had one drop of oil get past this set-up. The factory rubber seals can and will leak or slip out on you. The wide custom fit cork seal isn't going anyplace.

Never tried the one piece pan seal, but probably well worth the investment over the factory set-up for the later pans that used the "tit" type rubber rear pan seals......Cliff

It appears you use studs instead of bolts on your engine stand ?

Does that work easier ? OGR

ta man 10-11-2019 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Goat Racer (Post 6070662)
It appears you use studs instead of bolts on your engine stand ?

Does that work easier ? OGR

Damn that makes sense!

Cliff R 10-11-2019 04:12 PM

Absolutely, makes everything about that deal easier........just make sure to use hardened material, not cheap/soft threaded rod.....

hurryinhoosier62 10-11-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff R (Post 6070750)
Absolutely, makes everything about that deal easier........just make sure to use hardened material, not cheap/soft threaded rod.....

X 2, Cliff. I use either ARP or Milodon oil pan stud kits in all the engines I build. It simplifies the whole process of installing an oil pan.

ReelFun 10-14-2019 09:15 PM

I used the BOP one piece on my 389 and reused it after changing my pan after a year(the pan had a couple of small rust holes that were leaking). Sealed right up again. I would use the one piece again.

wh33lman 05-01-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff R (Post 6070595)
Here is my fix for the rubber rear seal leak problem.
I buy a sheet of cork gasket material and cut it precisely to fit with a razor knife. Never had one drop of oil get past this set-up. The factory rubber seals can and will leak or slip out on you. The wide custom fit cork seal isn't going anyplace.

Cliff

I need to resurrect this thread...

Cliff, do you double-up that cork gasket to get the needed thickness?

The cork sheets are 1/2 the thickness of the cork supplied in the Felpro gasket kits. And with the Butler 1-piece torqued down I still have a gap of about 7/32".

Do you glue the cork using silicone gasket maker, or some other glue like Gorilla Glue?

I realize the Butler 1-Piece is thicker than the Felpro black gasket and the Felpro cork gasket so that might explain the gap. (I have all 3 types at my disposal)

sdbob 05-01-2023 02:48 PM

Cliff are those studs to bolt oil pan on? Also looks like a SD on stand.

wh33lman 05-01-2023 07:49 PM

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I use studs on my 455 for the oil pan...makes setting it up much easier.

sdbob 05-02-2023 02:13 PM

Hmm .What studs are you using? I was thinking internal allen head studs. I was assembling Pontiac V8 years ago and broke one pan bolt. That was a bugger to get out.

rolling money pits 05-02-2023 04:46 PM

Wish I could tell you the exact application….I cannot.

I purchased valve cover studs, ARP, for I think a Mopar engine. I liked the bullet nose aspect * shrug *

Not sure why I didn’t get Pontiac VC studs, as I believe they have the same thread as OP bolts.


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