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performerrpm 10-16-2019 08:07 PM

speedmaster aluminum heads
 
just see them on ebay, claim to flow 289 @ 600 lift. look like maybee ehead knock offs but also look like nice combustion chambers. anyone check them out yet?


ill stay with sd butler or kre for heads but still interested in how these are. i mean those are better flow numbers than eheads out of the box

ponyakr 10-16-2019 08:21 PM

I think there have been at least 2 threads, probably more, about these, on this forum.

Just click on he "Search" function, at the top of the page, & type in "speedmaster heads".

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...07#post6011007

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...68#post6014668

chiefbigb 10-16-2019 09:42 PM

I'm going to try a set on a 406 street strip engine

performerrpm 10-16-2019 09:53 PM

yea ponyakr, theres alot of things on py that dont work on my phone i cant upload pics, pm rarely works right the first time. i can bareley stay logged in from page to page so it was better for me to ask

performerrpm 10-16-2019 09:54 PM

im kinda interested to hear how they work for ya chiefbig

flamedabone 10-17-2019 07:36 PM

I refuse to buy a product made in China when there is an American made alternative. Add to the fact that it is almost an exact copy of the Edelbrock head which is designed, engineered and built in the United States. Vic Jr spent a pile of money to bring us Pontiac guys a pretty darn good cylinder head, and for us to buy a cheap knock off of his effort is a slap in his face.

You will see a similar response from me in each of the Speedmaster threads because it is a subject important enough to me to do so.

Let your conscience be your guide.

-Abone.

Steve C. 10-17-2019 07:52 PM

It has been said years ago Vic, jr tried to produce in Mexico. The quality was damn near impossible to control, so he built the state of the art foundry in the U.S.


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Scott Roberts 10-17-2019 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamedabone (Post 6072850)
I refuse to buy a product made in China when there is an American made alternative. Add to the fact that it is almost an exact copy of the Edelbrock head which is designed, engineered and built in the United States. Vic Jr spent a pile of money to bring us Pontiac guys a pretty darn good cylinder head, and for us to buy a cheap knock off of his effort is a slap in his face.

You will see a similar response from me in each of the Speedmaster threads because it is a subject important enough to me to do so.

Let your conscience be your guide.

-Abone.

I dont disagree with you as the Chinese have stolen lots of products from the usa... however, I tested the quality of the aluminum and it was spot on...
Not saying buy it but it is a quality product based on tensile test and spectrometer....

chiefbigb 10-17-2019 09:50 PM

Allot of people running eagle rods and cranks. To each their own. I have 4 sets of e heads so I have made an investment in their product. When your looking to save some money on a build and as Scott stated they are as advertised it's good enough for me. Just my opinion

Sirrotica 10-17-2019 11:41 PM

The reason I have never bought a set of Edelbrock heads is because they are too damned high priced. AMC and olds heads are significantly cheaper from Edelbrock than Pontiac heads are. I'm just not convinced Pontiac heads should be the most expensive street type aluminum head that Edelbrock makes. I'm fairly certain that olds and AMC combined don't sell a larger quantity of heads than Pontiac heads do. All 3 are orphaned engines so there is no advantages to the lower priced offerings.

All my projects have iron round port, and D port heads because of the expense of buying aluminum Edelbrock heads.

Edelbrock also jumped on the D port bandwagon after Kauffman went out on a limb, and brought aluminum D ports to market. If you want to talk about someone else copying the guys that made the first aluminum D port heads look at Edelbrock, they aren't that much different than Kaufman D ports are.

If Larry Wenzler hadn't started the ball rolling would Edelbrock ever have made a Pontiac head?

I've heard that Arnie and other people high on the Pontiac totem pole begged Vic Edelbrock for years before he finally gave in and started production for Pontiacs, and was still not 100% convinced he'd sell enough heads to make money. I think maybe that is why he set the price so high, then he kept it high. $2-300 higher priced than olds and AMC per head. I've never heard a satisfactory reason why they are so high priced over other street type Performer heads.

I don't expect Pontiac heads to be priced like a SBC is, but they are easily the highest priced aluminum street type head Edelbrock sells. maybe the Speedmaster will bring Edelbrock to a more realistic price, but maybe not... :noidea:

Capitalism has been known to cause competition, and bring down prices on inflated items. Look what happened to GM sheetmetal prices once they had competition for body parts.....;)

GoatZillaRacing 10-18-2019 10:32 AM

Hate to sound like a broken record but...

To set the record straight, these heads are designed and tooled in Australia, raw castings are cast in a state of the art gravity die cast foundry in China, the raw castings are shipped to California where they are CNC machined and assembled.

We have sold plenty of these heads and have a set running on the Injun for the dragster right now. Zero Issues.

Our Website at PontiacSpeedShop https://store-vmw8zsy8cw.mybigcommerce.com/

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On Special with a FREE Intake and FREE Shipping Complete at $1799.

bulletpruf 10-21-2019 01:40 PM

These sound really interesting. Do you have any flow numbers on an unported head?

Thanks

72projectbird 10-21-2019 01:53 PM

I'd love to try a set of these, but I think 72cc is just too small for what I got.

Any plans for something like an 85cc head?

Mike Davis 10-21-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletpruf (Post 6074060)
These sound really interesting. Do you have any flow numbers on an unported head?

Thanks

Here is the original thread from Randy, somewhere there are flow numbers in this thread. I have seen one set, the castings actually looked better then both sets of my E heads.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=828907

Sirrotica 10-21-2019 03:16 PM

Flow chart:


https://i.ibb.co/hFpM8YG/Comparison.jpg

bulletpruf 10-21-2019 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirrotica (Post 6074089)


Thanks for posting. Unfortunately, if they don't come in 85'ish cc's, they won't work for me.

70 bird 10-21-2019 07:20 PM

.[QUOTEThe reason I have never bought a set of Edelbrock heads is because they are too damned high priced. AMC and olds heads are significantly cheaper from Edelbrock than Pontiac heads are. I'm just not convinced Pontiac heads should be the most expensive street type aluminum head that Edelbrock makes. I'm fairly certain that olds and AMC combined don't sell a larger quantity of heads than Pontiac heads do. All 3 are orphaned engines so there is no advantages to the lower priced offerings.][/QUOTE]

X 1000!!

prostreet64 10-21-2019 07:42 PM

Which intake is being offered with the $1799. special?

GoatZillaRacing 10-21-2019 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prostreet64 (Post 6074188)
Which intake is being offered with the $1799. special?

It's a low rise single plane unit.Attachment 522636

indymanjoe 10-21-2019 08:46 PM

87cc's and im in as well.


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