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68 Firebird 03-24-2020 09:14 AM

HEI center plate question
 
Had some extra time to tinker in my garage lately.
And while cleaning up some old parts I stumbled
into some old HEI parts. In relation to the size and
shape of the center cam which is more preferable.
The two I have are the 364 which is flatter or narrower
and gives 24 degree of advance using 139 weights.
Also have a 396 which is noticeably wider and gives
23 degrees of advance with same weights.
My HEI is a DUI and it’s center cam closely resembles
The 396 factory price. Just wondering if the rate
Of advance do to shape plays a factor and which
Is more preferable. This would be using original
Heavy HEI springs and weights.

Just had some extra time and was pondering
Why they are shaped so different.

steve25 03-25-2020 06:08 AM

4 Attachment(s)
This may help ya.

This was info derived by Jim Hand.
Please note that these pages loaded in reverse order.

68 Firebird 03-25-2020 06:30 AM

thanks
 
thanks Steve

steve25 03-25-2020 07:53 AM

Welcome, but first and foremost thank Jim!

Note that his findings where durived on a 455 so on a 400 with about 9.5 comp depending on your overall gearing you may make good use of a faster curve since the cylinder pressure rise may be slower.

Greg Reid 03-26-2020 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve25 (Post 6122711)
This may help ya.

This was info derived by Jim Hand.
Please note that these pages loaded in reverse order.

What publication is that? Not from the Jim Hand book is it?

steve25 03-26-2020 05:56 AM

No, it's not from Jim's, it's from a issue of Pontiac enthusiasts mag.

shaker455 03-26-2020 09:47 AM

Rocky Rotella wrote a good article years ago in HPP, " A weighty Issue"
Maybe Rocky will chime in with a link.....

Greg Reid 03-27-2020 02:08 AM

I'm trying to read the above posted photos. I think I can but it's tough. Thanks for posting that steve25.

steve25 03-27-2020 06:05 AM

Sorry, I would scan the pages if I could, but what I can do that may help is photo each page into 2 overlapping sections for ya.

I will post that up tomorrow.

P@blo 03-27-2020 09:31 AM

Another option to limit advance is to heat and bend the advance weight tails inward.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/raci...less-t765.html

68 Firebird 03-27-2020 11:10 AM

Advance
 
Really my question on how advance curve and rate is on
Take off. Which would be better a fatter plate or a skinnier
Plate. Would and auto car like a faster curve on take off.
Also due to 3:08 gearing would a slower curve be optimal.
I am just thinking aloud here.

Roadking88 03-27-2020 11:21 AM

68 Firebird, I adjust the rate of advance by changing the springs. It is a process of trial and error. I own a Sun Distributor machine so, it is fairly easy to run tests.


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