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Greg Reid 07-06-2022 07:35 PM

Hideaway up limiter..or whatever they're called.
 
Sometime ago someone posted photos of the tabs that limit the upper travel of the hideaway headlight covers. Can someone post the dimensions and a photo or two again? My car obviously needs them.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...967b79314e.jpg

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6869GTO 07-06-2022 11:08 PM

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This is a pic of an original. Believe 18 ga. , .540 wd x.875 tall. The bend is .185 and oval is +- .230x.500. One per side near grill. Goes between metal door and clip, not between clip and door cover. Not sure why they are no longer available repop. Measurements +- paint

4zpeed 07-07-2022 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 6354774)
Sometime ago someone posted photos of the tabs that limit the upper travel of the hideaway headlight covers.

Ah yes, I remember that thread... https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=849989

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Originally Posted by 6869GTO (Post 6354843)
Goes between metal door and clip, not between clip and door cover.
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Originally Posted by GTO.PAUL (Post 6248514)
I looked at 6 sets of original hideaways 3-'68 and 3-'69, and all had the 90 degree bend at the top of the tab as shown.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...4&d=1620484637



Frank

Greg Reid 07-07-2022 01:39 PM

Thanks guys, just what l needed.

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Scott Thelander 07-07-2022 01:44 PM

it looks like the grille is low on that side and not centered top to bottom ??

Old Goat 67 07-07-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Thelander (Post 6354979)
it looks like the grille is low on that side and not centered top to bottom ??

I thought I may have been seeing that myself Greg.

Charles

Greg Reid 07-07-2022 05:45 PM

I guess it's possible. Either way, at this point it's the headlights that I'm going to be messing with, otherwise I'll be pulling the whole bumper off before I know it. When I manually push the headlight covers down 1/4 of an inch or so everything lines up..well, close enough for me anyway.
These show the alignment as-is.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a56953cb79.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d713a04c53.jpg

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Greg Reid 07-07-2022 06:04 PM

Another angle, this time with the covers pushed down to align.
I don't get out much so how's this? I do have a slightly larger gap at the bottom than the top where the headlight covers meet the outboard edges of the grills so it is possible that I might be able to flex the mounts up on the outboard ends if that makes sense. Bring them UP to meet the headlight covers that is.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6fce931317.jpg

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68ragtop 07-07-2022 08:53 PM

I put some small washers between the brackets & the main headlight mount on one side of my car to ge the grills to match perfect. amazing how much time you can spend on the front end, but its all worth the effort when they line up. Your grill restoration turned out very nice BTW.

Old Goat 67 07-07-2022 09:33 PM

I say the grills need to come up on the outboard end Greg?
Seems to my eye that I can see a droop of the grills, even on the vertical spaces in the middle?
Is there any way to adjust the grill mounting attachments places to raise just the outboard ends up a wee bit?


Of course I don't know a damn thing about this at all.
Charles

6869GTO 07-07-2022 10:37 PM

Funny how threads get sidetracked. As far as I know the inner grilles are bolted to the upper bar. There are no shims and the lower grill floats in the lower mounts that have the oval rubber grommet. So how the heck would you raise or lower it? Seriously. The gap at the top of bumper to grill looks consistent to me from side to side. Pictures can be deceiving. Door to grill vertical gap not bad. These cars were not perfect when new and if Greg installs the stops to align the doors to grill a really great looking 68 will look nicer. End of my rant. Sorry Greg

Greg Reid 07-07-2022 11:09 PM

No apologies needed Leo.
The grilles aren't perfectly plumb but any adjustments would require bending or shimming the grille mounts, removing, replacing and checking several times and they can be a bit of a pain. Maybe one day but not soon.
Funny, they always looked good to me until I posted the pics in this thread LOL.

4zpeed 07-08-2022 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 6355111)
Funny, they always looked good to me until I posted the pics in this thread LOL.

For gawd sake don't post any more pics... :D

Install the stops and call it a day.



Frank

Greg Reid 07-08-2022 01:12 PM

Actually, the whole front clip could probably use a redo so it does not surprise me that posting pictures might elicit some constructive criticisms... But at this point in my life I'll leave that for the next owner!
Thanks for ALL of the replies guys.

Greg Reid 09-04-2022 12:12 PM

I meant to post this a while back but within a few days of getting replies on this thread I ran across these things. I have no idea what they were originally for but I'm kind of anal about keeping any kind of unused hardware that comes with anything.. They worked once I slightly modified the hole.
Still not perfect and I could tweak it some more but I'm good with it for now. It's an improvement.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1591089a50.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1e8fcf3bbf.jpg

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68ragtop 09-04-2022 02:51 PM

For the life of me I cannot recall seeing brackets like that in my car.
Funny though, after almost 3 years of finishing it, I am starting to forget many of the details
that I had studied over & over for the 2 decades prior. :)

Scott Thelander 09-04-2022 03:01 PM

I was looking at them kind of closely also and I don’t recall ever seeing those brackets on any of the 20 or so 6869 Endura. bumpers that I’ve had but…

Greg Reid 09-04-2022 04:38 PM

Number 38, center of pic.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c82ed0287d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...491391d619.jpg

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dataway 09-05-2022 02:51 AM

Greg, are those stops in the photo originals or a reproduction part?

I built my Endura from the parts from two different complete Enduras and didn't see those in my collection of parts ... but my bumpers were not unmolested by any means.

I notice my covers come to a pretty hard upper stop at the end of the actuator travel. I'm just wondering what circumstance would lead to the need for the stops. Wonder if it's once again a factory to factory difference, perhaps different actuator suppliers with a slightly different length of throw etc. ? But.... there it is in the parts diagram, so obviously standard issue.

Greg Reid 09-05-2022 12:30 PM

The ones I used are just some pieces I found in one of my hardware stashes. They obviously came with something that I bought in the past like a piece of furniture or something. I have no idea.
As soon as I saw them I knew that they would work for this purpose so I just used a couple of them.
If you look back at the original thread about these tabs, link in post number three of THIS thread, you'll see that several people have no need for them and even question their existence.. but my headlight covers did need them.
When I noticed that my covers always seem to be slightly elevated I remembered that thread which is why I started this one.


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