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misterp266 12-16-2022 01:57 PM

RAM tough???
 
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A 2020 1 ton truck. :eek:

I took an eight week trip around the country with a brand new 1995 3/4 ton Chevy extended cab with a slide in Lance camper. Never had any issues.
Don’t know if his frame bent or broke but it shouldn’t have done either.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...8&d=1671213061

Lemans64 12-16-2022 02:04 PM

Looks to be a pretty big camper, wonder how much it weighs? But ya shouldn't have done this.
Have seen this on other sites, just wondering if real or?

77 Canamman 12-16-2022 03:27 PM

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Looking at other forums, this isn't out of the question.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.die...39457ba688.png

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopar..._o-jpg.661373/

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopar..._n-jpg.661375/

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1671218817

Similar situation Ford

https://www.ramchargercentral.com/at.../2-jpg.455546/

77 TRASHCAN 12-16-2022 03:37 PM

Looks like the Dodges would we OK for hauilng around some of those large trash bags, full of leaves.......maybe :)

GTOnly70 12-16-2022 06:56 PM

Here's a newsflash: Do a 2 second Google search and you'll see similar pics for ALL brands of trucks...

Sirrotica 12-16-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GTOnly70 (Post 6393810)
Here's a newsflash: Do a 2 second Google search and you'll see similar pics for all brands of trucks...

I did just that, looking for a C3500HD, 1991-2002, the ones that have a filler between the front bumper, and the grille, the kinda ugly, one ton trucks that have a 15,000# GVW rating. Without independent front suspension, they have a solid beam axle with longitudinal front leaf springs. I haven't found any pics/video of a broken one yet.

I own a 95 3500HD box truck, and I doubt any camper, is going to break those frames, one tough truck. I also own 2, K3500 dualies (93, and a 97), they're nowhere near as strong as the 95 3500HD chassis is. Notice in the second picture, the double frame from the center of the cab to the rear spring hangers, right in the area all trucks frames commonly fail.

https://i.ibb.co/2ybh0JN/red-C3500-HD.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/L0HmSNP/c3500-HD-frame.jpg

The 3500HD is a one ton truck, with a two ton double chassis.
Of course in their infinite wisdom, GM stopped making those trucks in 2002, and went back to the single frame that does break. :Ithink:

72projectbird 12-16-2022 09:31 PM

Overload any truck, and you'll start finding the failure points pretty quickly.

I have a Ram and love it. I've hauled thousands of pounds with it over thousands of miles, and it's been rock solid.

Charlie Brengun 12-17-2022 02:10 AM

You see a good amount of those dodge ram thingsover here as well. I refer to them as plastic pickup trucks...

I wouldn'd mind a 1976 dodge w200 though, those look tough..

Half-Inch Stud 12-17-2022 09:31 AM

Does JC. Whitney have the Gusseted midframe option?

67drake 12-17-2022 12:12 PM

I figure they are cheaper for a reason.
I’d love to have a Cummins engine, but the bodies, Ummm….no

A.W.Dille 12-17-2022 12:14 PM

From what I've seen from some of newer trucks pulling trailers and hauling and bowing in the middle I'll stick with my 87 Ford 6.9 dually.

Sirrotica 12-17-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 67drake (Post 6393959)
I figure they are cheaper for a reason.
I’d love to have a Cummins engine, but the bodies, Ummm….no

There's a good reason that many people swap the 5.9 Cummins into the GMT 400 chassis (88-98 chevy, and GMC). That's a fairly popular swap if you look on the net.

I have 2 GMT 400 trucks that have the 6.5 TD, and one with the 454 gas, which I really don't like. I know the 6.5 isn't near the power of a 5.9 Cummins, but they suit me fine. I can see after owning the 454 truck why many people opted for the 6.5, the mileage sucks. About 8 miles per gallon with gas, compared to 15 with the 6.5.

72projectbird 12-17-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brengun (Post 6393883)
You see a good amount of those dodge ram thingsover here as well. I refer to them as plastic pickup trucks...

I wouldn'd mind a 1976 dodge w200 though, those look tough..

Plastic trucks?


Hardly.

'ol Pinion head 12-17-2022 02:24 PM

The 12V installs in older Chevys & GMC's mainly stems from "GM" guys trying to keep their square body & GMT400 chassis 3/4 & one tons on the road. First witnessed that swap over 25 years ago with several Chevy bracket racers. First picking up cheap partially stripped 4door duallies that needed an engine. Each one of them found a heavily wrecked Cummins Dodge to gives up its engine & trans then parted out the rest of the Dodge. That longtime GM owner "anti Dodge truck" sentiment often sees liitle basis in fact, just hyperbole, "can't drive a Dodge, doesn't fit with my rep..." LOL

Hasnt been hard to find solid 2nd Gen Dodge 2500 bodies/chassis down here. There's not a spec of rust on my Cummins & its only been garaged indoors (my building) for a few months in its life. Late 98 12V ext cab 12V, NV4500, HD clutch, Dana80.

Neighbor up the road sold his clean super solid '01 Cummins Dually quad cab last winter. Buyer gave 23K, & the AC needed recharge, if it had been 4wd, could have brought another 5k.

Bills Auto Works 12-17-2022 02:43 PM

I am sure you can find examples of problems with all the brands, but as a GM guy, I have to admit those pictures give me a chuckle! LMAO.:D

I transport with 2 Durmax diesel trucks that are basically almost the same....'02 Chevy 3500 & '03 GMC 2500 HD. I love them both & each has well over 600,000 miles on the original engines & trans. I am just now putting heads on the GMC. I would not trade them for any other truck, now I have to admit that since my stuff is washed constantly & is stored in a building that never gets below 55 degrees & humidity is also controlled, the chance of rot affecting the structure is slim!

I am also using a 97 GMC Sierra 1500 as my winter/bar parking lot truck that has 640,000 miles on it & has only had ONE engine change!

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...closed.614419/

SRR 12-17-2022 02:46 PM

Great trucks!
 
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Originally Posted by Sirrotica (Post 6393829)
I did just that, looking for a C3500HD, 1991-2002, the ones that have a filler between the front bumper, and the grille, the kinda ugly, one ton trucks that have a 15,000# GVW rating. Without independent front suspension, they have a solid beam axle with longitudinal front leaf springs. I haven't found any pics/video of a broken one yet.

I own a 95 3500HD box truck, and I doubt any camper, is going to break those frames, one tough truck. I also own 2, K3500 dualies (93, and a 97), they're nowhere near as strong as the 95 3500HD chassis is. Notice in the second picture, the double frame from the center of the cab to the rear spring hangers, right in the area all trucks frames commonly fail.

https://i.ibb.co/2ybh0JN/red-C3500-HD.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/L0HmSNP/c3500-HD-frame.jpg

The 3500HD is a one ton truck, with a two ton double chassis.
Of course in their infinite wisdom, GM stopped making those trucks in 2002, and went back to the single frame that does break. :Ithink:

I have a 94 C3500 with the 6.5 Diesel. I love this truck. It weighs 6400 Lbs with no tail gate, spare tire and a 1/4 tank of fuel. The last time I went to the dump with broken concrete I crossed the scales at 10,500 lbs.

burd 12-17-2022 02:49 PM

If ford weren’t so ugly, maybe then………
They keep that swoopy side window going year after year after year.

turbo69bird 12-17-2022 03:02 PM

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Pic posted for my brother Roger, Ole pinion head

turbo69bird 12-17-2022 03:06 PM

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Didn’t read through this thread but based on the pics guessing it’s. A. basher ! My first dodge all my dodges have always towed like crazy always a trailer hanging off the back always good trucks

'ol Pinion head 12-17-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo69bird (Post 6393998)
Pic posted for my brother Roger, Ole pinion head

THanks Jeff!
Gotta set my phone up where can post on PY with it.

Just noticed in the pic of my ol Cummins. Was taken 2years ago, was waiting on wheel spacers for the rear. Had just mounted 2018 Ram alloy wheels & new tires, but had yet mounted them on the rear axle. Ecoboost F-150 is my son's.


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