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Cammer-6 09-26-2023 09:12 AM

Birdglass topic revisited
 
topic has come up again
wondering if theres any more news on this "frill".
Im not privy to the FB page so add info from it if you like.
Please no speculation only facts backed with documentation.

I do know that all Ive had ,the glass was produced in Nov(11) but have seen them
in cars later than that,perhaps leftovers.
It seems to follow a pattern of high option cars getting it,Ive never seen it
show up in a bare bones model,but not to say it couldnt happen.
I tried to follow this topic on FGF but it got so scrambled up I couldnt tell what was going on.
Ive got some other running changes to explore but thats a topic for later.
DId I see someone post LOF glass or was this just a misfire?
Maybe this can stay on topic and get somewhere.

NO67GTO 09-26-2023 09:17 AM

Good topic I'm researching glass for my 69 as it needs a new windshield and back glass. My front is LOF and the rear is ppghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ca70e80648.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...074916b10f.jpg

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Cammer-6 09-26-2023 10:23 AM

sorry I should have stated
this is for 68s only and the topic is "bird" glass
not who has LOF or PPG.
that comment was for someone that posted they had LOF glass
and was meant to infer that it was "bird" glass.
Just one of the things I want to clear up

johnta1 09-26-2023 10:47 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Cropped image of the 'Bird' on the glass


https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1695739599


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Cammer-6 09-26-2023 11:16 AM

just to recap
this was 68 only
doesnt seem to be much in reasoning why it was selective as to what got it.

68 461 Bird 09-26-2023 03:25 PM

We bought a complete 68 PS door with the standard door panel on it. I noticed the "bird" on it when I mounted the door and rolled up the window.

Our car came with no glass, did all the glass have this bird on it or was it just on the door glass?

mysticmissle 09-26-2023 03:26 PM

do any convertibles have documented bird glass?

johnta1 09-26-2023 03:32 PM

Quote:

Our car came with no glass, did all the glass have this bird on it or was it just on the door glass?

Door glass


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66sprint 09-26-2023 03:55 PM

My 68 Convertible Firebird is a fairly high option car but it does not have the bird glass.

It is a 350 with automatic, Rallys, custom interior, console, PS, PB, Power top, and Special order Spring color Carnival Red.

It is a mid-February build date as I recall.

Cammer-6 09-26-2023 06:13 PM

Chris it seems as tho chances were better if its a Nov build or oddly near the end of production
that I surmise they used leftovers up.

johnta1 09-26-2023 06:17 PM

Here's some previous threads:


Bird Glass


1st Gen.org Thread


1st Gen site had a dedicated database for this, but doesn't seem to be available now?


Another thread on PY


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AG 09-26-2023 07:11 PM

My car has Bird glass with a build date of 12B at Lordstown.

68tpls400 09-26-2023 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticmissle (Post 6456980)
do any convertibles have documented bird glass?

My second week of September convertible did not have bird glass. My third week of November convertible DID have bird glass. Neither my second week of January coupe nor third week of July '68 'vert came with bird glass.
I also had a different coupe and convertible back in 1980 and 1981 that had bird glass, but I do not remember the build dates on those cars.

68 461 Bird 09-27-2023 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AG (Post 6457039)
My car has Bird glass with a build date of 12B at Lordstown.

I have the window rolled up all the way and I do not see a date code. Where should I be looking?

johnta1 09-27-2023 01:38 PM

In one of those threads I posted, it seems like they are inside the door, at bottom of glass.
(have to take out or panel off possibly?)


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Cammer-6 09-27-2023 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnta1 (Post 6457227)
In one of those threads I posted, it seems like they are inside the door, at bottom of glass.
(have to take out or panel off possibly?)


:confused:

real faint and hard to see
sometimes a dark sheet on backside and a flashlight will make it viable like post #2
Can be seen without removing door card

Cammer-6 09-27-2023 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 461 Bird (Post 6457168)
I have the window rolled up all the way and I do not see a date code. Where should I be looking?

12B is on the body tag
2nd week of Dec

glass dates are also used as a point of reference.

gtobird 09-27-2023 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticmissle (Post 6456980)
do any convertibles have documented bird glass?

I bought my 68 convert in 1989 from the third owner, who only owned it for a few weeks. He was a young guy that made a mistake and needed to sell it. Around 2017, I had a talk with the original owner (yes still alive). I tracked him down because I have all of the original paperwork including the hand written salesman order sheet. It was custom ordered and I DO have one of the broadcast sheets I found under the carpeting. The car was ordered with power windows and the tinted safe-T-glass which I still have. It has BIRD GLASS, BUT, I have seen nothing to indicate bird glass. It does have the deluxe interior and it was a spring of 68 build.

In case anyone needs some bird glass, I have an extremely nice set of non-tinted power window bird glass I got from a pair of 68 doors I rescued.

The car still has approximately 76K original miles on it!

Regards,
OJ :D

Cammer-6 09-27-2023 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtobird (Post 6457352)
I bought my 68 convert in 1989 from the third owner, who only owned it for a few weeks. He was a young guy that made a mistake and needed to sell it. Around 2017, I had a talk with the original owner (yes still alive). I tracked him down because I have all of the original paperwork including the hand written salesman order sheet. It was custom ordered and I DO have one of the broadcast sheets I found under the carpeting. The car was ordered with power windows and the tinted safe-T-glass which I still have. It has BIRD GLASS, BUT, I have seen nothing to indicate bird glass. It does have the deluxe interior and it was a spring of 68 build.

In case anyone needs some bird glass, I have an extremely nice set of non-tinted power window bird glass I got from a pair of 68 doors I rescued.

The car still has approximately 76K original miles on it!


Regards,
OJ :D

Whats date on data plate and date code of glass?

AG 09-28-2023 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 461 Bird (Post 6457168)
I have the window rolled up all the way and I do not see a date code. Where should I be looking?

If you are looking at the glass from outside the car the date is lower left-hand corner by the door lock on the passenger side and lower right-hand corner on the driver side. Etching looks like it is on the inside like Jonhnta said.


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