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dpoltzer 01-04-2024 12:44 PM

3M 05895 no longer available?
 
I need to repair some small cracks in my endura bumper on a 1970 FB. Apparently 3M does not make the 05895A &B kit that I have used in the past. Can someone recommend another product I can use? Maybe an SEM product? Thanks.

dpoltzer 01-04-2024 03:27 PM

3M stopped Making 05895!
 
I called 3M and they no longer make the 05895A & B in tubes. Replaced with #05887 but you need a special applicator gun that costs more than the product! Anyone know of a "Work-A Round" for the applicator? Thx.

Stuart 01-04-2024 04:02 PM

I found one place that indicates on their website they still have the 05895 available, but you'd have to check with them to confirm. There may be other places. https://www.wotcotools.com/product/4...895-5-oz-tubes

dpoltzer 01-04-2024 04:28 PM

OK thanks.
 
Thank for the link Stuart.

nytrainer 01-04-2024 07:12 PM

If you end up buying the 05887 I have the gun and have lent to others in the past. PM me if you need it

Cammer-6 01-04-2024 09:21 PM

last repair to Endura I did I used Lord Fusor
seems to be doing OK so far
But I normally use 3M products so would have to research why I made that choice

Greg Reid 01-04-2024 11:54 PM

The excellent 3m product that I used was changed to Bondo brand/packaging but it's the same stuff as far as I can tell. Not sure what the product number is now. It's been good for well over a decade.

dpoltzer 01-05-2024 08:30 AM

Thanks everyone.
 
Heading to body shop supply today to see what they have. I will report back.

78w72 01-05-2024 10:14 AM

I used the flexible SEMWELD 39708 product on my 72 endure nose, comes in 2 tubes that you mix up like JB weld, excellent product that applies nice & sands smooth & easy.
I was going to buy the 3m stuff but the auto paint supply store I went to only had the kind that needed the expensive gun, the rep suggested the SEM and said its just as good and can be used on other types of rubber/plastic too.

I used it to repair a small tear on a 78 nose too along with the mesh tape for added strength. Its lasted for 15+ years on the 78 and 7+ on the 72 with no signs of any problems. It was cheaper than the 3m too.

dpoltzer 01-05-2024 12:05 PM

SEMWELD
 
Thanks for the alternative product recommendation! I will compare size and $ for the money.

mrennie 01-05-2024 01:47 PM

The Bondo version is slightly different than the 3M stuff and is harder to sand. If you didn't have both to compare, you wouldn't know any better, but the 3M stuff is better to work with IMO.

There is a cheaper twin cartridge gun for larger 300 mL twin cartridges, and if you buy one you can wrap the 3M tubes in a few layers of cardboard from your favorite canned beer case, it will sit in the gun OK and you can use those smaller cartridges.

I wasn't willing to spend $200 for the proper autobody twin tube gun, but $50 for the larger gun was OK for 2-3 uses.

Something like this one, intended for 300mL cartridges. The pushing pads won't be centered in the tubes but it will still work. I used the same gun to dispense 3M NVH foam as well as Norton epoxy seam sealer from the smaller tubes so I feel like it was a good choice.

Also, some parts supply houses (my local Napa is one), bought the proper gun and would lend it to customers who bought the smaller tubes from them. I am a slow worker (see sig :)) so I wanted my own for when I needed it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28530579201...Bk9SR_iHwKubYw

As long as the repair product you buy is a flexible epoxy repair kit, it should be fine. I used 3M (both in tubes and cartridges), Bondo, and a Canadian product from Dominion Sure Seal. The 3M sanded the best, the Bondo was the worst, and the Sure Seal was noticeably softer than the others once cured and did not feather as well.

turbo69bird 01-05-2024 02:33 PM

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Here’s what I’d use works well stays flexible. Use it in marine applications all the time. You will be amazed at this product. If you want a harder less flexible for something use 5200

VCho455 01-08-2024 01:00 PM

How well does the 4200 sand? I've used 5200 at work but I've never had to sand it and it never gave me the impression that it was sandable.

dpoltzer 01-08-2024 02:46 PM

3M 05887
 
Purchased the 3M 05887 and borrowed applicator gun from a friend. Product worked well and I am pleased with results. Hope to apply paint this week. Thanks again everyone. Dave

cnc 01-08-2024 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpoltzer (Post 6477209)
Purchased the 3M 05887 and borrowed applicator gun from a friend. Product worked well and I am pleased with results. Hope to apply paint this week. Thanks again everyone. Dave

Dave did u happen to take any pics of the process

dpoltzer 01-08-2024 07:36 PM

No Pics
 
Sorry I did not take any pics. I will take some once I get the bumper installed.

cnc 01-08-2024 07:45 PM

Ok great

Cammer-6 01-08-2024 08:29 PM

just a warning to all that all of the mentioned products have a shelf life.
I wouldnt buy if its over a few months old.
Also resist the temptation to use up what you bought 2 yrs ago.

dataway 01-09-2024 07:35 AM

Is the 3M 05895 the product that was recommended by the often used "Endura Repair" sticky topic? The gray colored stuff that sands so well?

78w72 01-09-2024 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammer-6 (Post 6477266)
just a warning to all that all of the mentioned products have a shelf life.
I wouldnt buy if its over a few months old.
Also resist the temptation to use up what you bought 2 yrs ago.

Can you elaborate on this shelf life? Are certain products more time sensitive than others?

Reason I ask is because the SEM product doesnt mention any expire or use by date. I bought & first used mine about 15 years ago, then used it again on the 72 endura nose 8-9 years later, it looked new and applied as new with excellent results that have lasted ~8 years with no issues at all. Also used it again a few years ago on some honeycomb wheels I restored. Still looks & works like it always has and I dont see any problems using it again in the near future.

Most of these 2 part products have a very long shelf life in my experience, definitely longer than a few months, never used the 3m or lord fusor so cant comment on them... but normal bondo fillers and JB weld etc should last for many years if stored right.


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