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Mr Twister 11-02-2024 09:53 AM

interesting vin tag
 
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This car is at a classic car dealer by me. This tag looks altered to me. Its a second gen Camaro. Thoughts?

72projectbird 11-02-2024 01:13 PM

Yeah, that's not a factory GM vin.

It does come back as a 1979 350 powered, Norwood built Camaro. So it could be the original vin sequence, but the original tag got destroyed so this one was made in it's place.

Joe's Garage 11-02-2024 03:25 PM

Home-made tag
 
Danger, Will Robinson, Danger. Danger.

Not even with a 20-ft pole.........

besserspat 11-02-2024 03:47 PM

Looks like a 7 years old forged that VIN

limejudge69 11-02-2024 04:36 PM

I had a classmate in high school who had a Z28 in the same color scheme (circa 1987-88). Oddly enough his younger cousin who also attended our high school also had a 79 Z28 in white with the light/dark blue stripe kit. They were decent looking cars overall, just lacking in the horsepower department

geeteeohguy 11-03-2024 01:04 PM

Another "That's a homemade VIN" from me. Car could even be stolen. Not legal, in any case.

Mr Twister 11-03-2024 01:15 PM

I was surprised that they even took the car in on consignment. I think the only fix is a state assigned vin in place of the GM tag. I'm not aware of any method to get a replacement Factory or Factory appearing tag.

geeteeohguy 11-03-2024 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twister (Post 6533939)
I was surprised that they even took the car in on consignment. I think the only fix is a state assigned vin in place of the GM tag. I'm not aware of any method to get a replacement Factory or Factory appearing tag.

The car would have to be verified with a frame VIN number and previous paperwork and could then perhaps qualify for a state issued VIN.

VIN tampering is a federal crime, so this is pretty bad. The car is not sellable as it is, legally.

72projectbird 11-03-2024 03:28 PM

Eh, if it had a clean title and I really wanted the car, I'd still buy it.

71GP76TA 11-03-2024 03:41 PM

Not worth the hassle unless it was dirt cheap..

242177P 11-03-2024 06:40 PM

Assuming it isn't stolen, this wouldn't be the first time some chump with a sander ruined a VIN tag. But it's what they did after that which sets them apart. I'm surprised a dealer is bold enough to risk having this car on their premises. Only takes one call to land them in a world of hurt. Feds carrying boxes of evidence out from of your business ain't a good look.

IIRC, the X and F-bodies have the secondary stamp hidden under the heater box. They can pull the car apart at one of their facilities but they have zero obligation when it comes to reassembly. Fun. Even if an investigation should reveal that the secondary and partial VINs all match, there's still the issue of a fraudulent tag.

Everyone involved is going to burn through a heap of $$$ just trying to stay out of jail. And, after all of that, the owner will still end up with a state issued VIN. Which is what they were trying to avoid in the first place. Sigh.

JSuchma 11-04-2024 07:11 PM

As far as I can remember, all the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s have raised numbers and letters in the VIN, similar to a credit card. That's why they would be ground down by a would-be restoration shop trying to save money and let a novice loose with a grinder.

Mr Twister 11-04-2024 08:01 PM

I read the description on the car and was thinking ....estate sale. The reason I posted was that I've been playing with cars since 87 and have never seen such a bad vin/restamp.. The seller probably has no idea, but the reseller does. Not Cool.

pont3 11-04-2024 08:26 PM

If I remember correctly, vin tags were stamped, not engraved.

JSuchma 11-04-2024 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JSuchma (Post 6534198)
As far as I can remember, all the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s have raised numbers and letters in the VIN, similar to a credit card. That's why they would be ground down by a would-be restoration shop trying to save money and let a novice loose with a grinder.

Let me rephrase what I am describing. Older credit cards were pressed from the back side to raise the characters on the front. New cards have flush characters.
The characters on the older VIN tag were pressed from the back in the same manner.

Drag Star Le Mans 11-05-2024 02:23 AM

Fake as all hell! That is stamped like a block would be, vehicle vins were inside out

Skidmark 11-05-2024 09:28 AM

https://www.grautogallery.com/vehicl...et-camaro-z-28

I thought Mr twister took the shot, but the shot of the vin is actually in the ad so maybe there is a reasonable explanation. Not sure.

Lightfoot 11-06-2024 12:24 AM

The odometer on that car is wonky as hell also.
And I can barely read any of the trim tag. They could have taken a better photo.

sdbob 11-06-2024 07:25 AM

My 74 has a big glob(size of a quarter)of glue,sealer etc on metal part of dash that has painted over. Sooo if car is restored someday that will probably be removed by a good body man and not a kid with a grinder.


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