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Mediumrare72TA 03-31-2025 04:58 PM

72 T/A restoration
 
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Hello fellow enthusiasts.

After many years in storage (in my family 40+ years) its now time to give the car the TLC it deserves.
I got the PHS documentation. VIN 2V87X2N******
I think it is on the dealer order form? the following codes;
Radio code 405
Elec-r-wi-de code 534
cstm trm grp code 724
glass s/r al code 531
air cond man code 582
The car also has color code F (lucerne blue) and 221 trim ivory vinyl.

I now have collected (expensive) a lot of parts for the car, new headliner, floor carpet, window moldings, weatherstripping, fasteners kits, 455 engine rebuild kit (Butler) and much more. Still missing the correct 7F6 heads+exhaust manifolds.

Car will soon be ready for the paint booth.
Just got a paint sample(attached), but not sure we got it right?

Also need tips reg. correct white color for the (discolored) white interior plastic parts.

Any forum feedback appreciated.
Cheers

JSuchma 03-31-2025 05:51 PM

Colors are hard to tell from pictures, but if you had the formula mixed from a code or scanned an area of original paint on the car that has not seen much sunlight, you should be very close. Good luck!

Baron Von Zeppelin 03-31-2025 06:53 PM

Is it a 4spd without console ?
Or column shift Automatic ?

With AC and De-Ice together they used an extra idler pulley on one of the fan belts.

Color spray out looks good in the picture.
Park 10 LuBlu cars together and get at least 5 different shades of blue these days.

Welcome to PY and Congrats for holding onto the car.

turbo69bird 03-31-2025 08:45 PM

Very nice I’ve been looking for a 70-73 myself haven’t found the right car yet.

I used to really not like them
Something always bothered me about the A pillar not meeting the top of the fender. But they’ve grown on me

My dad has a 69 mustang he bought new that color so
I like it but my wife calls it greaser blue lol But it’s a very nice color and if it’s original even better. Happy to see your putting the effort into the old poncho And welcome.

Mediumrare72TA 04-02-2025 02:46 AM

Thank you for the feedback(s).

I also need to figure out the correct white color for the shaker scoop (to match the white stripe).

Some underbody coating/protection would be wise?

After getting the car back from the painter (all the body parts separately and as an empty shell), I would like some tips reg. assembly strategy.

Maybe reassemble like this(comments/suggestions)?;
1. Headliner
2. Dash
3. Front and rear window
4. Instrument cluster/under dash components incl. wiring.
5. Steering column/wheel
6. Interior parts, parcel shelf, carpet
7. Seats
8. Filler panel between rear window and trunk lid (maybe this should be #2)
9. Trunk lid
10. Engine and transmission
11. Master cylinder/booster
12. A/C unit (next to engine)
13. Doors (adjust gaps)
14. Radiator support with radiator.
15. Inner front fenders
16. Front fenders (adjust gaps).
17. Front bumper
18. Hood (adjust gaps and check with shaker height first)
19. Undercar components brake/fuel lines, exhaust, fuel tank.

Any feedback/suggestions appreciated
Cheers!

'ol Pinion head 04-02-2025 01:43 PM

Might ck out the stickys @ the top of '70-73 Bird Tech section to get a good idea on reassembly. Bob & Keepat, 165th, NJ Steve, all have long build (serious restoration) threads on '72's that each own/have owned. There are multiple ways to approach reassembly, personally would reinstall the restored subframe & have a couple very picky old guys (long time body guys) assemble the front sheetmetal. For individual detail questions, feel free & ask away.

Welcome to the board, before I get back to it, would be remiss in not asking you if your '72 is a late build car (12D-04A) body build? My '72 T/A M22 project is near identically optioned like yours. It is a very late build (03E) originally white w 226 black deluxe interior. Only option Im seeing that is different w your list, is my '72 was equipped w a console.

Mediumrare72TA 05-11-2025 01:07 PM

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Update;
Just started painting the car (roof decal not yet in place). Been advised to also put clearcoat on the decal(s).

Also, I will have the (discolored) plastic interior trim pieces painted (white). The back side of the seat cover can be color matched to get as close as possible to a "new" look?

Engine block/crank etc now in the machine shop. Still undecided on heads/intake/ cam.

Cheers!

steve v 05-11-2025 02:26 PM

I wouldn't spray a clear coat over the decal stripes for several reasons. One is the clear may peel off of the vinyl stripes (adhesion problems) and second if you ever need to replace one of the decals down the road it'll be nearly impossible to remove the vinyl without paint work involved.

Mediumrare72TA 05-11-2025 03:12 PM

Thanks for your reply.
Surely the decals were never clear coated from the factory?

78w72 05-12-2025 09:56 AM

Yes, decals on any 2nd gen firebird or any other GM vehicle did not clear over the decals.

Some people do that but IMO it doesnt look right, the decals had a flatter sheen to them, not glossy like the paint, and it will eventually crack around the edges or on the decal itself due to different flex rates of paint vs vinyl decal. If you want a totally smooth appearance then paint on the stripes & clear over them, but its correct to apply the decal after the paint is cured & wet sanded/buffed out.

srmmmm 05-12-2025 03:53 PM

Assembly plant steps after paint were:

Hard Trim Department - Install all components to make the body watertight including exterior trim, mirrors, light fixtures, wiring harnesses, internal door mechanisms, heater core, A/C evap core, HVAC box, Steering column, pedal assembly, glass and weatherstripping. Then it went through water test.

Chassis Department - On the body: All rear suspension components, muffler and tailpipes. On the front subframe: Control arms, springs, knuckles with rotors already in place, steering gear and linkage, brake & fuel lines, sway bar,core support, shroud and radiator.

Engine line - Install carb, starter, accessories, and transmission. Then engine was mated to the subframe.

Body drop - Subframe is mated to the body, driveshaft, front exhaust pipes, all linkages for throttle, clutch, brakes and transmission, e-brake cables, fuel and brake lines lines connected, hoses, and wheels mounted

Soft Trim Department - Instrument panel, dashboard, headliner, speakers, carpet, trim panels, door panels, seats, seatbelts, front bumper, fenders and hood.

Final Assembly - Special emblems, decals, fluid fills done and pressure tested, A/C charged, roll-test for engine performance, transmission shifting, gauge operation, A/C function, front toe-in set.

Mediumrare72TA 04-12-2026 05:44 AM

72 T/A Restoration update
 
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Some of the parts in/done;

All body parts finally painted (Lucerne blue).
New seat covers installed (white, deluxe).
Interior plastic trim pieces painted (to match scanned insides)
New floor mats.
AMK hardware kits (1.436 pieces total).
17" Honecomb rims.
Engine parts;
455 Block bored 030
Forged pistons
Scat H beam rods
Eddie roundport heads/ 1.6 roller rockers
RPM intake
BP /Comp 8022SP hyd roller 230/236 (050) 112 0.544/0.555 lift.
C.R. around 10:1
ARP main studs.
No exhaust manifolds yet.
And much more.

New headliner to be installed -please advise (rod style).

Unfortunately the mounting holes for the wheel spoiler flares were bondoed/painted shut -for the rear holes I will maybe try to from inside the door jamb air vent hole put som strong magnets -and then put som metal shavings from the outside to locate/drill?

Cheers!

necdb3 04-12-2026 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head (Post 6558311)
Might ck out the stickys @ the top of '70-73 Bird Tech section to get a good idea on reassembly. Bob & Keepat, 165th, NJ Steve, all have long build (serious restoration) threads on '72's that each own/have owned. There are multiple ways to approach reassembly, personally would reinstall the restored subframe & have a couple very picky old guys (long time body guys) assemble the front sheetmetal. For individual detail questions, feel free & ask away.

Welcome to the board, before I get back to it, would be remiss in not asking you if your '72 is a late build car (12D-04A) body build? My '72 T/A M22 project is near identically optioned like yours. It is a very late build (03E) originally white w 226 black deluxe interior. Only option Im seeing that is different w your list, is my '72 was equipped w a console.

528 or 529 vin?

'ol Pinion head 04-13-2026 01:05 PM

529... believe yours is as well.

Highest VIN "72 T/A I've ever seen is the lucerne blue original owner car that was shown at MCACN 7 or 8 years ago

How are you on condition of your late "72 model Irvin seat belt tags? Will be ordering at least two sets of repro seatbelt tags. Staggering the dates same as on originals.

'ol Pinion head 04-13-2026 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediumrare72TA (Post 6564258)
Update;
Just started painting the car (roof decal not yet in place). Been advised to also put clearcoat on the decal(s).

Also, I will have the (discolored) plastic interior trim pieces painted (white). The back side of the seat cover can be color matched to get as close as possible to a "new" look?

Engine block/crank etc now in the machine shop. Still undecided on heads/intake/ cam.

Cheers!

Going to be a beautiful '72!

What line of paint product was used? Thanks!

necdb3 04-14-2026 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head (Post 6611845)
529... believe yours is as well.

Highest VIN "72 T/A I've ever seen is the lucerne blue original owner car that was shown at MCACN 7 or 8 years ago

How are you on condition of your late "72 model Irvin seat belt tags? Will be ordering at least two sets of repro seatbelt tags. Staggering the dates same as on originals.

5287 is my vin. Seat belt tag aren't in bad shape at all.

necdb3 04-15-2026 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediumrare72TA (Post 6558027)
Hello fellow enthusiasts.

After many years in storage (in my family 40+ years) its now time to give the car the TLC it deserves.
I got the PHS documentation. VIN 2V87X2N******
I think it is on the dealer order form? the following codes;
Radio code 405
Elec-r-wi-de code 534
cstm trm grp code 724
glass s/r al code 531
air cond man code 582
The car also has color code F (lucerne blue) and 221 trim ivory vinyl.

I now have collected (expensive) a lot of parts for the car, new headliner, floor carpet, window moldings, weatherstripping, fasteners kits, 455 engine rebuild kit (Butler) and much more. Still missing the correct 7F6 heads+exhaust manifolds.

Car will soon be ready for the paint booth.
Just got a paint sample(attached), but not sure we got it right?

Also need tips reg. correct white color for the (discolored) white interior plastic parts.

Any forum feedback appreciated.
Cheers

Is this an early or late built car? Was it built after Jan 1, 1972? The first 3 of the last 6 of the vin would be helpful.

tom s 04-15-2026 08:38 PM

Paint the stripes and then you can clear coat.That is how I did my 69 T/A.Tom

'ol Pinion head 04-16-2026 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by necdb3 (Post 6612057)
5287 is my vin. Seat belt tag aren't in bad shape at all.

Great to hear. Mine are very legible, just have a tinge of discoloration to a few, so replacing them locally.

'ol Pinion head 04-16-2026 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by necdb3 (Post 6612212)
Is this an early or late built car? Was it built after Jan 1, 1972? The first 3 of the last 6 of the vin would be helpful.

Interested in body build time as well, have an older database with '72 T/A's & HO Formulas listed by EARLY & LATE builds.


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