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JJDeville 06-15-2025 10:14 PM

1970 Grand Prix PHS question
 
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I recently bought a 1970 Grand Prix SJ with Leather Interior. The PHS shows a notation I have never seen before. It says 5 PCT Car on the lower left corner. Anybody know what that means?

Held for Ransom 06-15-2025 11:09 PM

Pre-owned (Pontiac used), registered (Oregon licensed) and sold with a discount to a dealer.

JJDeville 06-15-2025 11:27 PM

So, a zone car driven by a zone manager?

Baron Von Zeppelin 06-15-2025 11:53 PM

Yes, something like that.
Someone higher up in the command chain.
Most of them were at or below 5500 retail , yours was 6177.

3 months or 3000 miles personal use.
The trim tag build date should predate the invoice by a fair margin.

There would have been another invoice prior to this one where it was billed to the zone.
But it's becoming rarer for PHS to have copies of the multiple invoices on a single car.

Congrats on a sweet SJ

JJDeville 06-15-2025 11:57 PM

I will check the time built code on the trim tag tomorrow. Thanks!

thepontiacman 06-16-2025 07:37 AM

Shipped to dealer code at right bottom is different than the dealer listed.

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Half-Inch Stud 06-16-2025 07:42 AM

6,177 was a big price huh. But no 455?

JJDeville 06-16-2025 08:01 AM

Yes, it has a 455. Included in the SJ option. It has the original 370 hp 455.

Baron Von Zeppelin 06-16-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thepontiacman (Post 6569252)
Shipped to dealer code at right bottom is different than the dealer listed.

25-997 , is because it was originally sent to - and used by a higher up at a Zone 25 office in Oregon.
Then it was charged off from 25-997 , and charged to dealer 25-182 in Washington on this invoice.

There would have been another invoice before this invoice ,
charging it to a Zone 25 office in Oregon.

Correct the SJ included the 455 HO , XF/64 engine
SJ package brought some inclusive features.

Example :

https://i0.wp.com/www.schmitt.com/wp...g?w=1170&ssl=1

JJDeville 06-16-2025 10:22 AM

This is the sweetest driving car ever! I was looking for a 69 SJ 428 HO like the one I had when I was 18 years old. I like this car better due to the leather interior and the high compression 455. My old 69 was a serious fast car but it had the kiss of death in that it was 3 way Green, Limelight with dark Green interior and dark Green vinyl top. That would not be so bad in 2025 but in 1984 it was way out of style! I love the way this car is colored up. I will get some good pictures of it later today.😀

JJDeville 06-16-2025 10:24 AM

Also, this was a lady owned car. It has had one quality repaint. She put the Gold centered Appliance Striker mags and Grand Prix GT Radials on it and showed it as The Golden Girl!

Baron Von Zeppelin 06-16-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 6569235)
Most of them were at or below 5500 retail , yours was 6177

The 5500 number meant where most vested employees were capped on their cars.
The employee who initially ordered and drove this car must have been so deeply vested that they didn't even have a cap on their cars.

'ol Pinion head 06-16-2025 10:51 AM

Def a nicely loaded '70 SJ. Congrats!!!
The leather interior, pwr seat back locks, & pwr door locks are seldom seen 1970 GP options that pushed the MSRP up over the 6K. Believe saddle(?) & black were the only 2 color leather bucket seat interior options for '70.

Baron Von Zeppelin 06-16-2025 11:25 AM

I knew about rearward mounted/forward facing cassette decks , but don't think I was aware of 8tracks that way too. Cool.
Did pull a couple pedestal front mount 8tracks from GPs with no console.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mark_p...57607065772577

Saddle leather promo pic
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mark_p...7607065772577/

'ol Pinion head 06-16-2025 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JJDeville (Post 6569232)
So, a zone car driven by a zone manager?

At least in the late 60's & up into the 70's numerous Pontiac Zone employees had the ability to drive well loaded new models as demonstrators. Wasn't just the top managers. In the late Summer of '68, my Dad (worked for GMAC) special ordered our family's '69 Executive 428 6 pass wgn. Dad set it up so local zone 20 Pontiac rep (friend) drove the Executive wagon for 2 months. A great deal as this zone rep was in and out of Pontiac dealerships all over & could get any bugs worked out immediately. Previously, Dad had managed a similar deal with the same zone rep to drive what would my grandmother's '66 Ventura. Years later, when my parents moved N of OKC to Edmond, the Pontiac zone mgr & Pontiac zone distribution manager both lived in my folks neighborhood. Both zone execs drove new '81 Daytona Pacecars for a few months.

72projectbird 06-16-2025 01:40 PM

Man, that thingwaswas pimped out back in the day! Loaded up, and rocking some gold wheels!

I like it

JJDeville 06-16-2025 07:41 PM

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Got some pictures today.

JJDeville 06-16-2025 07:43 PM

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JJDeville 06-16-2025 07:46 PM

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I wanted a Grand Prix to round out my Pontiac collection.

JJDeville 06-16-2025 07:48 PM

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