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nytrainer 08-05-2025 05:13 PM

Inverted flare union yea or nay
 
What started out as a need to bleed brakes (power drums) turned into a bigger job than I wanted to do at this time. Bleeders were frozen (replacing all wheel cylinders) The flare fittings were rusted to the brake lines and no amount of heat or solvent were going to free them so rear brake lines twisted/kinked so I replaced them.
Right front went ok but left front brake lines broken where it meets brake hose. I plan on a disc brake upgrade this winter with complete front end bushings, new lines, etc overhaul.
Question is how bogus is an inverted flare union to section in the front line to get it back on the road ASAP.
Thanks

b-man 08-05-2025 05:35 PM

Nothing wrong with that. Do whatever gets it done.

HWYSTR455 08-06-2025 07:41 AM

3/16" brass compression fittings 'work', but are not recommended for brake lines.

But I've done it before in a pinch.

A good flaring tool will do inverted flares. But you will have mixed results with 'used' steel line.

You can do a regular flare and use a brass union, that's totally acceptable and lasts.

If you are going to metric calipers, there are unions that are standard flare on one side and inverted on the other.



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VCho455 08-06-2025 07:06 PM

My 67 Suburban came with one in the rear brake line from the factory.

Sirrotica 08-06-2025 09:04 PM

45 degree inverted flare unions usually made from brass are perfectly legal, and fine to use to splice 2 brake lines together. As has been already mentioned many vehicles, especially trucks use them from day one.

Compression unions are not legal and aren't meant to handle the high pressures encountered in a typical brake system. Especially in an emergency situation when you really need the system to work, they can fail at a crucial time. The ferules tend to work harden and split or come loose from vibration. Compression fittings are meant for lower pressure stationary systems without the exposure to constant vibration. I.E. water or gas lines in a home. This is also where single flares belong, not in a 3000 PSI brake application as they tend to split and crack under severe pressure and vibration.

I recommend Nicopp lines for brake system repair, and fabrication. It's extremely easy to get good double flares with a hand held flaring tool and is also very malleable for forming bends, usually no bending tool is required. Made from a nickel, and copper alloy it will outlast any steel lines and doesn't have the associated headaches that stainless steel has from being hard to flare, and bend.

If you're double flaring on your own cars use a little bit of lube on the flaring tool forming cones to make them easier to expand. Just a little lube makes the forming easier, and less likely to come out misshapen.

Premium car makers are now using Nicopp lines to stave off corrosion, and premature failure of the hydraulic portion of the brake systems.

Good luck on restoring your brake system tubing, it's never a fun job.........:thumbup:

Skip Fix 08-15-2025 11:14 AM

I found a company that has different Ni Copp lengths even slightly custom vs Oreillys selection. Forgot the name though. Used them on the 64 Vette project


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