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gman005 08-28-2025 05:25 PM

Grandville troubles
 
It runs hot in stop and go traffic. Then it will he hard to start. I flush the coolant 1st it doesn't look to good.

steve25 08-28-2025 06:17 PM

Did you use a two part flush?
That type is the best, but you should by pass the heater core for the flush.

Is there a fan clutch and does it keep the fan engaged at engine idle speed when the motor is up to temp,

Does one of the exh manifolds still have its heat riser flap and if so is it jammed closed?
Is the exh system bent up and restricted?
If the vacuum advance is not working that can contribute to low speed hot running.

You might just right off the bat pull the water pump to make sure the two seal incerts are there in the divider plate and are in good shape and also to check the water pump impeller to divider plate clearance.

Also just to look at if the pump has the preferred good cast iron impeller or if it’s crappy type that looks like an Alternator fan .

gman005 08-29-2025 08:11 AM

The motor was rebuilt before I got the car. It has a 455 with Kre dpors on it.

gman005 09-02-2025 04:55 PM

So If I can stop the fan at idle wouldn't you think the fan clutch is bad?

steve25 09-02-2025 05:25 PM

Sure would!

PAUL K 09-03-2025 07:47 AM

No, being able to stop the fan at idle would not necessarily mean the clutch is bad.

mgarblik 09-03-2025 10:10 AM

A frightening test from way back in the day was to use a piece of soft wood, like white pine. You were supposed to "gently apply" light pressure to the back of the fan blade with the engine idling on a hot engine. The fan blade was supposed to chip away pieces of the wood and continue turning. If the wood easily stopped the blade the clutch was shot. The good old days of analog testing! Pretty sure this test was from Gates, Dayco or possibly Hayden. Been many decades. My test is on a hot engine, 200F+. Gently raise the RPM's, the fan should turn close to engine speed and sound like a wind tunnel. Shut engine off and turn by hand. It should turn pretty tight.

jhein 09-03-2025 10:17 AM

Are you running vacuum advance? If so, is it connected to a ported or manifold source? What is your base timing?

77 TRASHCAN 09-03-2025 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6580097)
No, being able to stop the fan at idle would not necessarily mean the clutch is bad.

Yes, It all depends upon how loose, is loose...:Ithink:

gman005 09-04-2025 03:47 AM

So i changed the fan clutch and let the car idle for 30 minutes. I then drove it for another 15 minutes. Now the temp gauge stays put no more up and down and you can feel the air flowing into the engine compartment.

steve25 09-04-2025 04:25 AM

Nice easy fix and good to hear.


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