I'm just going to set this here for comments...
 

Joe rambles a bit, but the essence is understood...thoughts??

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Fc...ibextid=wwXIfr

Rambles? Ya.
Couldn’t watch the whole video but I’d have to say he’s pretty much right. I don’t see the hobby continuing as we know it. The newer generations aren’t interested in what we have. Plus, the cost to build a car today is outrageous.

Don’t really know where my stuff will end up when I’m gone but at least “I” enjoyed it.

He makes some valid points in that what's important to one person may not be important to another, especially when it comes to sentimental value of an automobile. Also, have plans in place for your assets before you die. But it also sounds like the weight of losing friends was bearing down on him too.

Agree with some. Obviously, Joe posted to generate feedback. Goofy in some ways but some points hit home 100%.

Many older folks holding cars. I have this conversation a lot with my boys (3) and significant other. We are dying out, period.

Who is this blowhard? I didn't even make it a minute in - but at least it's a reminder as to why I should never click on facebook posts.

He makes valid points. I know Internet videos usually get paid by length and views.... It's obvious when folks are stretching out the length part. Not a big fan of current television so we watch a lot of old shows recorded from METV or wherever. It's obvious they had to drag out the two part episodes.

For those folks that don't know Joe Zolper he is a drag racer among other things (like a digital creator :D ) and he has a Bad Fast Pro Mod style Superbird. He lives in the Chicago suburbs.


Also not a fan of Joe Zolper videos but he has a great one ranting about the State of Illinois when they fined him for removing the insurance from one of his vehicles so he could perform some long term repairs

He makes some valid points. A lot of what he is saying is purely point of view from his perspective. Certain cars will always have value. Certain cars will always increase in value.... Stutz... Duesenberg.. etc.. come to mind.. and yes some iconic muscle cars will retain and increase in value.. I think a lot of "trendy" modded cars will decrease in value.. Look at street rods that were built 25-35 years ago... pro street cars... dated customs... cars that are too personalized... they all sell for pennies on the dollar and have very little interest.

I didnt watch the whole thing so maybe he makes some different points, but his base point in the beginning about youth not caring about the old cars is I story we see come up and I just dont see it as reality. And as someone who dabbles in content creation, more specifically as someone who read through reddit posts for people trying to come up with ideas, I can say there are plenty of people who are just trying to harness an idea or stereotype to generate engagement.

I go to PRI every year, and it doesnt skew nearly as old as guys like him would have you believe.

Would I believe that an individuals individual kids might not want their dads car? Sure. But thats small sample size. It also doesnt have to be negative. Why should someone be beholden to become a caretaker for something they dont want, when that thing will bring someone else joy? When God forbid my dad goes, Im going to be on the phone with a real estate agent as soon as any normal estate hurdles clear to sell the house. Why would I not? Im not moving to Wisconsin. I dont even really like Indiana so Im def not dealing with even more salty roads. I dont see why a car is different. You dont want it, you dont have room for it, maybe you need the money, maybe you just want to get the uncomfortable process that comes from a death in the family behind you quickly.

And if these cars are truly getting offloaded cheaply, thats good for the hobby. Because if there is a gateway to youth owning muscle cars its cost.

Ive said this before on here and I stand by it. When the stars in TV shows and action movies stop driving muscle cars and start driving Corollas then I will be worried for the hobby. As long as John Wick drives Chevells and Mustangs, we are still cool.

He is monetizing personal opinions.
Sad to see some folks cash in on
past success in life for money.


https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...759438582[


I didn’t click on the actual video,
I can stop at a bus stop or pull over
at a sidewalk in any town to hear
someone ramble on …


Jim

I don't see what the problem is. I don't even really know what his main question or concern is. He kept asking "what are you doing" with these cars. But then he seems fixed on what happens after an owner dies. Who cares? They're dead. At that point the car is just part of the estate. That's it. It's a thing. Either someone wants it or not. I don't know why he's so distraught by the whole thing.

I don't have anyone who wants my car after I die. I've already given my wife instructions on what to do with it if I die before she does. It may be worth something, or it may not. The end.

He really aint far off -- but I still see another 15 years or even 20 years before things really get to this point.... and he is correct - majority of the younger generation today wants nothing to do with old cars. No connection. Not wanting to deal with maintenance etc. And labor on repairs is ridiculous. Heck most 40-ish year olds I meet that are new to the hobby and can't do much work on their own are then blown away with the $150 to $225 an hour shop rates.

Then factor in that the majority of big cities is getting rid of parking everywhere you turn and there just is no space to have an extra car for the younger generation that typically lives in big cities due to employment opportunities there.

And here is where I totally agree with him - GO DRIVE YOUR CAR!!! Do burnouts. Race it. Enjoy it how is was truly built to be enjoyed!

Exactly ^^^^
I refuse to watch this especially if it’s on FB ….. give him a box of Kleenex.

Our living trust spells out everything including my cars and parts, which provides me a great hobby while I’m here. After I’m not here, oh well it’s next in line, enjoy.

Regards

His point as I see it is, Use your car(s) and get rid of them while you are alive, because next to nobody is going to want it after you are gone and there will be so many of them for sale in 10-15 years that they will be worth very little.

I 100% agree,

Except I might have an anomaly, one of my grandsons who is 14 loves my car he asks me questions about it and sends me sketches of it regularly, so maybe he will want my bird when I’m done with it. My 8 other grandchildren probably do not want the car in the slightest.

I say sell it before you die, cheap, real cheap, to someone that appears devoted to the hobby, preferably young, preferably not profit driven. Maybe help keep the hobby going for another couple of decades.

If you wait till after you die, it's still going to go very cheap in most cases, and probably to someone that will just roll it over for a profit.

Pay it forward to the next generation.

I didn’t watch the video but o agree to some extent with the topic. Some cars will be worth big money still. They aren’t as likely to depreciate as they are to stop appreciating.
That’s what happened with 20s 30s 40s 50s cars they reached a point and stopped gaining while regular car prices kept rising

A decent diesel pick up is $90k today
My hellcat Durango was $100k
So $100k for a rare Pontiac is an average price today really
$100k to restore a rare car is again average. We are comparing really hot and rare performance cars after all

I think one thing has diminished the hobby and that’s everything being retired stock vs period correct . But that’s a different story. In the 60s and 70s people didn’t leave these cars stock and they didn’t want these cars stock if you drove around in one stock you were likely either a dork or you were driving your dads car 😂

Nah seriously though. So many weren’t stock that people who had stock ones had something rare. So people started restoring to stock , but now it’s rare to not have one that’s stock but period correct so DAY 2 is gaining steam. Especially w the Chevy guys. Even yenko cars

Many kids aren’t interested in the shows because it’s a sea of the same restored cars with guys who are interested in am vs fm or maybe it has a reverb.

Kids (younger people) want flash and power. And drivability something they can use vs diaper , maybe that’s why resto mods are brining so much money 💰

He's the same idiot on "garbage squad" that kept referring to a Pontiac engine as a big block. My guess is the gig didn't last and he's looking to make $$ off his posts.

Yikes…. Depressing talk but nothing lasts forever. I’m not seeing the hobby die anytime soon. Both my sons would like to have an old car but it isn’t realistic at the moment. One of them will get my gto when I’m gone cause I have no intentions of selling it. If I didn’t have someone to pass it on to I would sell it when the time was right. I took it in to get an alignment a couple of days ago and the 30 something’s were all over it and an another that looked 20. I get thumbs up all the time from drivers on the road,, been happening for many years.

I see cars get restored that looked like they should have been left right where they were at. It’s a huge undertaking on those wrecks. The price of a decent muscle car now is crazy compared to the 70s or 80s when decent ones were still around at a reasonable price. There might not be as many younger people interested but I think there’s still plenty of them around.

Not as many kids interested in old cars as when i was young, but still a few show up wild eyed and looking for fun at the shows i've been to. I don't mind if they want to sit behind the wheel or touch my car. I figure maybe I can help light that fire by sharing.

Told my grandson that my 68 GTO will be his one day, when the time is right. He was very excited about it when he was 5yrs old, but now he's 15 and couldn't be less interested, and I've rescinded the offer; I'm going to hang on to it for awhile longer...

Nobody or nothing lasts forever and I do see his point and the barrier of entry for the kids that are interested.

My kid has been planning my death for years so no worries about my beater but those guys that hoard a ton of cars and never drive them should just let them go to someone who wants in.

Life is too short otherwise.