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A.W.Dille 12-18-2025 07:54 PM

Greg Biffle plane crash
 
Regrettably former NASCAR driver Greg Biffle and his family perished yesterday in a plane crash in Statesville, North Carolina. There were also the pilot and two friends of the Biffle family also died in the crash.
Greg was a Craftsman truck and (formerly)Busch series Champion and also won several races driving for Jack Roush.
Greg was one of the first to fly needed supplies to victims of Hurricane Helene in 2024.
He will be greatly missed in racing circles and remembered for his aid to the Hurricane victims.

scott70 12-18-2025 08:20 PM

I saw that today… just horrible. RIP.

tom s 12-18-2025 09:21 PM

Sad,when he was driving we used to talk about boats and fishing,never about racing.Good dude.RIP

carcrazy 12-18-2025 09:24 PM

Sad news, may he and his family rest in peace.

KS circutguy 12-18-2025 10:58 PM

He was a Vancouver WA resident when he started his racing career, never forgot that and was a good soul who helped many people.
RIP Greg may peace be with his family.

KS circutguy 12-19-2025 11:30 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QWQD_U0Xm0
Good lord...

vertigto 12-19-2025 02:13 PM

Very sad...RIP.

I've read that many amateur pilot crashes could have been prevented with a proper/thorough pre-flight check.

KS circutguy 12-19-2025 02:27 PM

It has been reported he had a hired pilot, he was co-pilot.

hurryinhoosier62 12-19-2025 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vertigto (Post 6596310)
Very sad...RIP.

I've read that many amateur pilot crashes could have been prevented with a proper/thorough pre-flight check.

Biffle had professional pilots who flew his Citation II.

turbo69bird 12-19-2025 05:25 PM

I’m a pilot and it’s very unforgiving. You’d better be on you r game very single time your in that airplane.

There were radical climbs and descents in the flight data.

There was a nascar racer that died in the north east a. Few years ago as well Busch series as I recall. Flew out of my airport at the time.

Had a family friend die in a small jet not long ago because of a defect in the way the parking brake worked , known issue w that airplane for years, he’d still have made it if it hadn’t been for a company putting up a new utility pole that was 10 ft taller than the old one at the end of the runway.

There’s so many tragic crashes and quite often you’d be amazed. You just don’t hear about all of them
Just higher profile ones.


Sadly when you’re flying a high dollar aircraft you think your safer the you really are. , the technology in manny cases causes the issues.

May the RIP sad to see anyone go out like this …

KS circutguy 12-19-2025 09:39 PM

Interesting commentary on the crash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdM1UO9tYvY
at 6:32 min make he mentions the issues these birds had with the front nose luggage compartments latch not locking correctly and has killed engines when luggage goes into the intakes. Among other ones.
https://storage.imgbly.com/imgbly/6zmldliVer.jpg

turbo69bird 12-19-2025 10:03 PM

This guy does a good job watch for the altitude changes.

https://youtu.be/ljQ9nOrUEwo?si=1EnbPTYULZoS_WGU

KS circutguy 12-20-2025 01:19 PM

The NTSB investigation of the crash of a Cessna Citation at the Statesville, NC regional airport.
NTSB video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTmVAqy36d8

KS circutguy 12-20-2025 07:53 PM

So after seeing the above NTSB video nobody noticed the missing starboard front compartment hatch or the engine spinner gone. +
Quote:


@dankuettel5063
5 minutes ago
I did aircraft handling for 16 years at an FBO and I can tell you that many times I've alerted the pilot(s) in Citations of unlocked storage lockers and Ive even witnessed a jet returning with one of the forward storage door open. Ive also held up keys that were left in the lock only to have the pilot shut down and retrieve those keys. People dont give enough credit to what attention to detail by another set of eyes can do to save your hide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIBpi6QyW8

KS circutguy 12-21-2025 11:51 PM

Update
Actual voice transmission before fatal crash.
Probable Cause; Dan Gryder
The Greg Biffle Plane Crash: What Really Happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiPUBFFgQM

60sstuff 12-22-2025 10:22 AM

I just watched this Dan Gryder video this morning and it looks clear cut.

It is so tragic and unfortunate that this even happened, but as in many cases human error is the cause.

I’m always interested in plane crashes because as a little boy my Father flew a corporate jet for an oil firm out of Springfield, Illinois back in the 60’s - 70’s.
Dad was the chief pilot on a Dassault Falcon 20 for many years, plus he flew a Cessna Citation II several times.

Thank for sharing.

burd 12-22-2025 11:08 AM

Just fly commercial, way safer

hurryinhoosier62 12-25-2025 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burd (Post 6596652)
Just fly commercial, way safer

Marginally safer. Airlines CAN defer maintenance; GA aircraft can’t.

burd 12-25-2025 12:46 PM

I traveled for a living for 30 years. Way safer.

Limelight69 12-26-2025 12:01 PM

Wow. Crazy sad. So avoidable. As a pilot myself it’s hard to imagine the thought process here. That’s a lot of low altitude maneuvering in an underpowered aircraft with a lot of drag going on.
Even if you’re set on returning to the same airport, get yourself to altitude, clean things up and get set up for a proper approach. But knowing Charlotte was only 32 miles away where you had a towered airport and “help” makes it even more sad.


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