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Gary H 01-11-2026 07:02 PM

Race header sizing
 
I'm getting ready to have another set of headers fabricated for my car and I wanted to get some knowledgeable opinions on header size. My current headers are stepped 2 1/16" to 2.25" primaries. The combination is in my signature below, but the engine is 541 CI, and I shift around 7800 rpm. HP is around 1050. Does anyone else have a similar combination, and what size headers are you running?

triathlonx13 01-12-2026 12:04 PM

Tagging on - Always good to hear opinions and possibilities of facts.

Gary H 01-13-2026 12:21 PM

OK, I spoke with Jeff at KRE and he recommended starting with a 2 1/8" primary for around 12-15", then stepped to 2.25", then to a 3.5" merge collector. Any thoughts on this?

srmmmm 01-13-2026 01:11 PM

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This is a Trans Am series car. 358 cu in engine, 935HP @ 8600rpm. 2.25 inch pipes into 2.5 inch pipes into 3 inch Y-pipes into 4 inch side pipes.

We swapped out the engine in just over two hours after it had lost coolant pressure in the last 15 minutes of a practice run. Big increase in crankcase pressure the next time out indicated rings were toast. It was only a $60,000 muck up.

Then pinion bearing gave out during qualifying and we had to swap out the carrier the night before the race. Hypoid gear lube is an excellent skin softener.

johnta1 01-13-2026 02:29 PM

I'd try Larry Meaux' Pipe Max and see what it says?
Just a rough estimate I'd think it would need a little more?
(need a lot of engine specs to use it)


:confused:

John Langer 01-13-2026 02:47 PM

2-1/8 for around 4” to 2-1/4 to 2-3/8 total length under 28” into a 4” merge collector. Clocked for firing order

Steve C. 01-13-2026 05:37 PM

A FWIW, John's combo in my signature uses 2 1/4- 2 3/8 step header, 34 primary length, 4.5 collector.

526 CID
4.500 / 4.315 / 6.7
HP heads / 13.2 :1
Victor intake w/Cloverleaf spacer & sheer plate
8896 Dominator carb
920hp at 7000 rpm


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Gary H 01-13-2026 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by John Langer (Post 6599587)
2-1/8 for around 4” to 2-1/4 to 2-3/8 total length under 28” into a 4” merge collector. Clocked for firing order

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!

PAUL K 01-14-2026 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Langer (Post 6599587)
2-1/8 for around 4” to 2-1/4 to 2-3/8 total length under 28” into a 4” merge collector. Clocked for firing order

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary H (Post 6599611)
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!



That's what I'd do

aaronman 01-14-2026 10:21 PM

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Here are my SS headers. Very close to what John suggested. I run 2.125-2.25" and merge collectors clocked to firing order at 900 to 950hp depending on combination in car.

blueghoast 01-16-2026 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronman (Post 6599786)
Here are my SS headers. Very close to what John suggested. I run 2.125-2.25" and merge collectors clocked to firing order at 900 to 950hp depending on combination in car.

WOW Nice and great fitment too

GT

BDHABT 01-26-2026 09:13 AM

We tried 2 different sets of headers on the dyno.

2"-2 1/8" 947HP

2 1/8"-2 1/4"-2 3/8"-2 1/2" 963HP

blueghoast 01-26-2026 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BDHABT (Post 6601407)
We tried 2 different sets of headers on the dyno.

2"-2 1/8" 947HP

2 1/8"-2 1/4"-2 3/8"-2 1/2" 963HP

Thats a pretty good jump, wouldn't of exspected that much from a step
header.

GT


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