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Tim Corcoran 05-10-2026 11:05 AM

1,800 RPM
 
I have a 67 GTO that I recently purchased. Its a great car and it very fast with a butler built stroked 455 with ported eheads hyd roller and Doug's headers. It has an M20 transmission with a Centerforce dual friction clutch. There is a pretty significant vibration at 1,800 RPM. It's not the driveshaft and it's not the transmission because it has the same vibration in neutral without the car moving. I believe it's either the engine or the clutch causing this vibration. I was wondering if anyone has experienced this issue? I only notice it at right around 1,800 RPM. Any ideas? Could this be caused by a malfunctioning hydraulic valve lifter? Could the pressure plate/clutch be out of balance?

SRGN 05-10-2026 12:28 PM

If the engine balance is good, likely a flywheel out of balance. You can run the engine without the transmission installed, if you believe it's the clutch, pull the trans and run it with the clutch removed from the flywheel to see if the vibration disappears. If the vibration persists, you can have the flywheel balanced at a machine shop or replace it.

1911a1 05-10-2026 02:12 PM

Just a thought, I’m probably the worst mechanic on here but what about the harmonic balancer, especially if it’s 60 years old or a cheap one

george kujanski 05-10-2026 02:43 PM

Does the vibe peak at 1800 or satr at 1800? If it's a mechanical balance issue like the flywheel. I suspect it will get worse with rpm.

George

Tim Corcoran 05-10-2026 03:30 PM

It's very specific to 1,800 +/- 1000 RPM not present at 1,500 goes away before 2,000

NeighborsComplaint 05-11-2026 01:11 AM

Flywheel balance mismatch. The motor is probably internal balanced not external.

BB70 05-11-2026 02:34 AM

A stick car will amplify a lean-rich condition in part throttle operation, that rpm range is where different circuits overlap.
Just throwing it out there. Good luck with it.

John

Half-Inch Stud 05-11-2026 07:02 AM

Hmmm, could be mixture transition beating with the Timing Advance dancing (mech and maybe not Vacuum). What type carb, intake, dizzy?

Tim Corcoran 05-11-2026 10:03 AM

850 Dbl pumper
MSD RTR Distributor with vacuum advance
Intake Performer RPM

The vibration is there in neutral, clutch in, clutch out, during acceleration, during steady, during deceleration. I feel it the strongest when down shifting and hitting 1,800 RPM. In all cases it is at the same RPM.

zippy 05-11-2026 10:24 AM

I would remove clutch and run engine bare. That will tell if its engine side or trans side

PontiacHO 05-11-2026 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Corcoran (Post 6615376)
I have a 67 GTO that I recently purchased. Its a great car and it very fast with a butler built stroked 455 with ported eheads hyd roller and Doug's headers. It has an M20 transmission with a Centerforce dual friction clutch. There is a pretty significant vibration at 1,800 RPM. It's not the driveshaft and it's not the transmission because it has the same vibration in neutral without the car moving. I believe it's either the engine or the clutch causing this vibration. I was wondering if anyone has experienced this issue? I only notice it at right around 1,800 RPM. Any ideas? Could this be caused by a malfunctioning hydraulic valve lifter? Could the pressure plate/clutch be out of balance?

Before making any changes, take all the belts off-loose. That will eliminate a cooling fan-clutch and strange harmonics with alternator etc…

Skip Fix 05-11-2026 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint (Post 6615455)
Flywheel balance mismatch. The motor is probably internal balanced not external.

My thoughts. I fact the 400 I am freshening was an auto flexplate it was balance to. I took the flexplate to the machine shop to match to the new stick flywheel.

I do know some guys that take the pressure plate to balance as an assembly and mark it and the flywheel.

Tim Corcoran 05-11-2026 08:16 PM

I removed the belt and eliminated the accessories. Next step pull the trans, flywheel etc.

Half-Inch Stud 05-12-2026 07:24 AM

During decell; not mixture, nor Timing.

Vibe due to rotating metal.

77 TRASHCAN 05-12-2026 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Corcoran (Post 6615627)
I removed the belt and eliminated the accessories. Next step pull the trans, flywheel etc.

After removing all those parts, maybe install an automatic flexplate, start engine, see what happens...

Tim Corcoran 05-17-2026 10:08 PM

Could this vibration be caused by a bellhousing misalignment?

SRGN 05-17-2026 10:54 PM

Alignment wouldn't do it.

HWYSTR455 05-18-2026 09:04 AM

What kind of balancer is on there? If it's an SFI, it's most likely zeroed. If it's a generic factory replacement, I would pitch it in the circular and dig on the build to determine if it's internally or externally balanced.

If it's a stroker assembly, my first guess would be internally balanced, but still need to troubleshoot.

You can in many cases visually inspect the flywheel and determine if it's a zero or externally balanced one.

After above, I would be looking at the PP.

I would also inspect the pilot bushing carefully. If it's damaged etc, would also be looking at the trans front bearing. (if not the entire trans).

If you get it apart, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check the general alignment of the bell. If it's an OE one, behind a stroker, I would replace it regardless.

EDIT: If it's a CF PP, check the weights to ensure they are correctly seated and the retainer isn't damaged or missing.

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Tim Corcoran 05-18-2026 10:53 PM

Power Bond SFI

HWYSTR455 05-20-2026 06:12 AM

So yes, that's an internally balanced unit.

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